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Tate on squat/dead/bench

Postby JP » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:53 pm

Dave Tate is a good writer and knows his stuff, though these instructions may be biased towards the shirted and suited competetive powerlifters. They still have loads of interesting points:

Bench - http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do? ... dy_115b600

Deadlift - http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=194dead

Squat - http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do? ... y_120squat
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Postby sensless » Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:45 pm

These are great articles. Thanks for the links!

Reading the squatting article has reminded me of a few things that I used to do but for some reason stopped doing. Hopefully this reminder will cause my squat form to improve so I can get back up to 525 and then beyond.

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Postby J » Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:49 pm

Yeah I've made a lot of changes to my bench press last week based on Tate/Simmons. I've always used a narrow grip (at least what a powerlifter would call a narrow grip). And I never arch my back, and I would keep the bar up high on my chest. Hopefully changing to wide grip, back arched and bar low will do something.
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Postby tylerm » Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:30 am

I liked these articles as well. Applied some of his points in his deadlifting article today to my deadlifts. Just getting started doing them, last time I did them a few weeks ago, my max was 1x5 135lb. Today I warmed up with that amount and did 2x5 at 175 lb. with no problem. I think with more practice and working on my technique I can easily add a lot more weight onto that in a very short time period. I just rearranged my workout schedule, I focus on doing squats once a week, and hadn't been able to fit deadlifts in when my legs or back wasn't sore before.
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Postby sensless » Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:23 pm

I will be deadlifting today and I am planing on trying to pull the weight differently than I had in the past. I think I was doing many of the correct things he mentioned in the article already, but I know I wasn't doing all of them. I think I am especially guilty of trying to squat the weight at the begin of the lift instead of pulling it, along with my arse being in the wrong place-explaining why my only sticking point was getting the bar off the ground. Usually if I can get the weight started, I can finish the movement. I'm excited to try this stuff!

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Postby tylerm » Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:39 pm

The first time I tried deadlifts I think I also tried to squat the weight up, in that I would take grip on the bar, and just use my legs until I got more than half way up, then straighten out my back, pulling it up into the finishing position.

This past time I was easily able to lift more weight by keeping my shoulders behind the bar and pulling up and back from the get go, as well as using my legs.
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Postby michaelhobson » Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:37 pm

Sometimes it is good to run out of new posts to read, then you have to go back and find great stuff like this thread. I read all three of the articles listed above and every one was worthwhile.

I am really looking forward to my next round of deadlifts. I have been trying to start in the squat position with the heavier weights. Now that I have some idea what I should be doing, I bet I can easily add 50 pounds to my deadlift.
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Postby JP » Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:46 pm

damn, i've read these articles now probably 4 times already, and every time i notice something i need to differently next time!

Thanks Michael for bringing this thread up again.
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Postby michaelhobson » Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:49 pm

I got a chance to work on my deadlift technique today and sure enough, i added 50 pounds since last week! Pulled 325 pounds (147.4kg).

Thanks again JP, for the articles.
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Postby tylerm » Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:44 pm

just wanted to bump this post to the top again, these articles are really good. I am just about to re-read the bench article before I go to the gym...
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Postby buzz » Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:12 am

Yup, they are good. I have them printed off and keep them in my bag most of the time to read on the way to work.
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