soy protein suppliments for lifting

[jimbob]

I have been doing 2 shakes a day for the past month, about 50g
total daily of protein.. I use Genisoy XT (water processed non-GMO
soy) vanilla powder with blueberries/bananas/soymilk/raw green tea.
I have not noticed any bad effects from that (as claimed it will lower
testosterone which is not true). Anyone else taking large amounts of
soy powder and any downsides or effects? The XT is supposed to be
full isoflavone isolate and water proccessed.

I also started olympic weightlifting for past month, I am a beginner,
I joined a group here and have a coach its great. I go MWF-Sat
religously after work. They make fun of my diet and soy, etc but its
all good. http://www.columbusweightlifting.com i took some pics
for the club and redid the website, and its in the same facility as the
local arena football team uses. click on "our facilities" to see more.

[Fruitbat]

I I have not noticed any bad effects from that (as claimed it will lower
testosterone which is not true). Anyone else taking large amounts of
soy powder and any downsides or effects? The XT is supposed to be
full isoflavone isolate and water proccessed.

i think the testosterone thing is a myth?

[tylerm]

Jimbob, I used soy protein isolate xp for months and had no ill effects, other than some gas at first. The lowered testosterone thing is BS, no merit to it.

Nice job on their website, looks pretty slick. I checked out the link to other weightlifting clubs in ohio, their is one at the YMCA about a mile from my house, I think I may go check it out sometime next week and see what it is like.

[JP]

here is some info on the soy - oestrogen issue:
http://www.veganfitness.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=576

[wannalift]

thats awesome jimbob. i'm on a powerlifting team, but even i know olympic weightlifting is the tops. are you going to the arnold this year? see you there.

as to the original question, i did use soy protein shakes for years and years, but recently switched to rice protein. i still drink a half gallon of soymilk a day and eat lots of soy protein, so i figured i'd switch to rice to give myself some kind of balance.

[jimbob]

http://www.csoonline.com/read/060105/heavylifter.html

you are from PA, my coach told me about this guy. If I don't have
to travel for work *UGH* to exciting delaware, i'll tag along with
everyone and go to a meet in PA sun jan 28th? Not sure what club
it is, you might know. (pittsburgh barbell?) i don't remember.

I took tai chi and read a lot of chinese philosophy, tai chi texts,
and its funny because olympic lifts explode from the Tan Tien,
which is the point below your navel, the Tai Chi masters believe that is
the point where all power is concentrated. OL seems to have a
chinese way about it. When I was practicing clean&jerk
you 'sink' your Tan Tien (like in Tai Chi). Also OL transfers force
through the heel, tai chi talks a lot about that. If a Tai Chi master
learned OL he might have a big grin on his face throughout the lesson.

yeah i probably will be going to the arnold.

"Do you have the patience to wait till your mud settles
and the water is clear" --- Lao Tzu

[wannalift]

thanks for the heads up about the contest, but i believe it might be on the 29th. cheers.

[sensless]

I also started olympic weightlifting for past month, I am a beginner,
I joined a group here and have a coach its great. I go MWF-Sat
religously after work. They make fun of my diet and soy, etc but its
all good. http://www.columbusweightlifting.com i took some pics
for the club and redid the website, and its in the same facility as the
local arena football team uses. click on "our facilities" to see more.

Looks like a cool facility. I am going to try to have more focus on my oly lifts this coming year, and if I find a competition out in this area I'll give it a go. That stuff is really fun!

Regards,

Sensless