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Is Neal Barnard Legit?

Postby Lordmuppet » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:56 pm

I've been curious for a while now as to how much weight to give to Neal Barnard's (of PCRM) writings on vegan stuff. Would be interested to hear what you all think.

This article http://www.huffingtonpost.com/neal-barnard-md/james-gandolfini-did-not-_b_3491047.html got some alarms bells ringing due to the following which seems like low fat alarmist nonsense. To be fair the guy does cite some studies but hey I could find you two studies to support pretty much anything (no really).

[quote]Abundant research shows that even a single fatty or salty meal can stiffen the arteries and greatly increase the risk of a heart attack.

A study published last year in the Canadian Journal of Cardiology found that damage to arteries occurs almost immediately after one fatty meal. A study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition showed blood flow through arteries was significantly impaired within 30 minutes of eating a salty meal.
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Re: Is Neal Barnard Legit?

Postby ratfan » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:48 am

He is over enthusiastic about the benefits of a vegan diet - I know the UK Vegan Soc feel the same. And I (having studied nutrition) don't agree with much of his writing.
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Re: Is Neal Barnard Legit?

Postby Lordmuppet » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:05 pm

thanks for the reply. Was wondering why everyone else was avoiding the thread ...
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Re: Is Neal Barnard Legit?

Postby vegimator » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:29 pm

In addition to his questionable nutrition ideas, he also uses fat phobia to promote vegan eating - http://jezebel.com/5877398/new-anti+che ... -pure-evil
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Re: Is Neal Barnard Legit?

Postby xrodolfox » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:16 pm

A friend works for PCRM, Neal Barnard's organization. She's very legit.
I'll ask her about Neal, but it's unlikely to be soon enough to add anything to this thread.
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Re: Is Neal Barnard Legit?

Postby Lordmuppet » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:49 am

maybe the question should have been Do PCRM give Good Nutritional Advice. I can edit the title.
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Re: Is Neal Barnard Legit?

Postby beforewisdom » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:35 pm

[quote="Lordmuppet"]thanks for the reply. Was wondering why everyone else was avoiding the thread ...


His dietary fat phobia and fat shaming commercials aside, he is a respectable plant based diet advocate, so my guess is that vegans are weary to poop on his image.
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Re: Is Neal Barnard Legit?

Postby beforewisdom » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:38 pm

[quote="Lordmuppet"]maybe the question should have been Do PCRM give Good Nutritional Advice. I can edit the title.


The PCRM/Dr. Barnard advocates a very low fat diet, similar to McDougal or Esselstyn.


It has been many years since I read their nutrition guide, but the only supplement the last edition I read suggested was b-12. This was at a time when other guides were recommending EFA supplements. I asked Dr. Barnard about it and he strongly felt that if people followed his dietary suggestions to the letter that they would get enough EFAs from the food they ate.
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