Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Any queries about vegan diet, nutrition, dieting, bulking and healthy eating in general. Diets and food from vegan perspective.

Moderators: hardcore iv, bronco, fredrikw, JP, Rochellita

Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby beforewisdom » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:02 pm

I was reading another forum.

Someone who I know to be a dyed in the wool raw foodist was posting a guide to the best vegan beers.

I've also seen raw deserts: cakes, chocolates, pies, candy etc in my local food co-op.

Raw foodists believe that uncooked foods have something vital and delicate in them that is destroyed by cooking.

Thus, they will not eat a baked potato out of concern for their health, but they will drink and eat chocolate cake?

"The plural of anecdote is not data." (Roger Brinner)
beforewisdom
Active Member
 
Posts: 1572
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:33 am

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby blinki » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:43 pm

I figure the very vast majority of raw foodists recognise it's fairly impossible to get yourself to eat perfectly healthy all the time- just like a diet is harder without a cheat day. That means at some point they will eat some not raw things which makes sense of beer or crisps. Those things are more likely to be unhealthy things people crave rather than a baked tattie

The point of going out of your way to have raw cake is a bit beyond me. If you are going to have an unhealthy treat then I figure you may as well go for whatever you want. I've never had raw cake that was particularly good so I don't see why you'd go for it. I guess somebody must really like it.

Unless raw sugar is better for you than the usual stuff? I'd guess it's not really and the difference in healthiness or a raw and non-raw cake isn't much.
User avatar
blinki
Active Member
 
Posts: 766
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:26 am
Location: Melbourne

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby Talyn » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:41 pm

Orthorexics will do just about anything to rationalise their choices.
User avatar
Talyn
User Activation Admin
 
Posts: 3529
Joined: Fri May 13, 2005 12:21 pm
Location: Brentwood, UK

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby HumanGazelle » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:20 pm

Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote:A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds


I would hazard a guess that raw foodists who believe that it's ok to have beer and cake are having beer and cake because they enjoy having beer and cake.

So let's say that people on a diet sometimes like bending their own rules for a treat. And then not only that but as their treat, they choose alcohol and sweet food over a baked potato. It all sounds pretty sinister to me.
User avatar
HumanGazelle
Active Member
 
Posts: 372
Joined: Mon May 12, 2008 9:42 pm
Location: London, UK

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby etherspin » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:11 am

agreed,id be cheating with some gyoza,coffee,hot chocolate,tiramisu and sticky date pudding not no damned baked potato :mrgreen:
User avatar
etherspin
Active Member
 
Posts: 175
Joined: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:15 pm

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby fredrikw » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:49 am

Sounds quite miserable if cheating would mean eating a baked potato, if you're going to cheat you might as well make the most of it.
--- non-racers. the emptiness of those lives shocks me ---
User avatar
fredrikw
Site Admin
 
Posts: 10738
Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2004 12:46 pm
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby Konstantin » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:19 am

Their rules, their conscience, let them eat what they want. I think most Raw fooders are either somewhat determined people or people prepared to slip now and again. It's a shame we don't have a cheating raw fooder here, surely they could answer your question better than any of us.
You can see my training log if you're really bored: [url]www.veganfitness.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16086&start=360[/url]
User avatar
Konstantin
Moderator
 
Posts: 4591
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:37 pm
Location: Devon, UK

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby JP » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:21 am

may as well smoke crack
User avatar
JP
Site Admin
 
Posts: 19228
Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2004 4:14 pm
Location: Berlin, Germany

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby Konstantin » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:24 pm

Eating crack would be raw, surely? But smoking it would be similar to cooking, so a bit of a no-no.
You can see my training log if you're really bored: [url]www.veganfitness.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16086&start=360[/url]
User avatar
Konstantin
Moderator
 
Posts: 4591
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:37 pm
Location: Devon, UK

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby fredrikw » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:42 pm

Konstantin wrote:Eating crack would be raw, surely? But smoking it would be similar to cooking, so a bit of a no-no.

Depends on whether it's part of the regular raw food diet or if it's the cheating part. Regular healthy raw food diet with all the enzymes intact: eat it. Part of the cheating: cook it however you want.
--- non-racers. the emptiness of those lives shocks me ---
User avatar
fredrikw
Site Admin
 
Posts: 10738
Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2004 12:46 pm
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby baldy » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:48 pm

But not all alcohol has been heated over the magical 42 degrees C. Home made cider is RAW and packed with loads of extra enzymes that make you feel great (for a short period), same goes for wine.
"A wise man once said, "It's easier to buy smaller clothes, than to put on 5kg." ... Buzz
User avatar
baldy
Site Admin
 
Posts: 7261
Joined: Wed May 09, 2007 10:23 am
Location: St Albans UK

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby fredrikw » Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:04 pm

baldy wrote:But not all alcohol has been heated over the magical 42 degrees C. Home made cider is RAW and packed with loads of extra enzymes that make you feel great (for a short period), same goes for wine.


How do you know that the grapes haven't been subjected to 42C while growing?
--- non-racers. the emptiness of those lives shocks me ---
User avatar
fredrikw
Site Admin
 
Posts: 10738
Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2004 12:46 pm
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby baldy » Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:35 pm

fredrikw wrote:How do you know that the grapes haven't been subjected to 42C while growing?

You grow them in the shade?

On a related question, is it raw to sauna?
"A wise man once said, "It's easier to buy smaller clothes, than to put on 5kg." ... Buzz
User avatar
baldy
Site Admin
 
Posts: 7261
Joined: Wed May 09, 2007 10:23 am
Location: St Albans UK

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby Talyn » Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:41 pm

baldy wrote:On a related question, is it raw to sauna?


Or for that matter, to shower.

Which may explain some stereotypes.
User avatar
Talyn
User Activation Admin
 
Posts: 3529
Joined: Fri May 13, 2005 12:21 pm
Location: Brentwood, UK

Re: Raw Foodists Who Drink?

Postby beforewisdom » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:08 pm

baldy wrote:But not all alcohol has been heated over the magical 42 degrees C.


That would be 107.6 F for those of us who live in countries controlled by backward forces that were scared of converting to the metric system.
As a further reference, water boils at 212 F ( or 100 C for you evil socialists :) )

"The plural of anecdote is not data." (Roger Brinner)
beforewisdom
Active Member
 
Posts: 1572
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:33 am

Next

Return to Vegan Diets, Nutrition and Healthy Eating

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests

cron