JP wrote:i've mostly had this opinion that if the routine is more or less sound, it doesnt matter which one you follow, they will produce results - its the other factors which will come to play even more, from, diet and rest, to life stresses, training partners, position of moon and availability of druids and crystals - in other words, who knows...
The psychological factors are hugely important though - if you believe that THIS routine produces results, it has a higher likelyhood to do so

For me the biggest factor is my surroundings and training partners. Everything else just supplements that.
So therefore, your conclusions seem rushed. Sure its easier to make strength gains with weight gains - though then you could say you are not making much relative strength gains anyway

But time and time again people from all kinds of strength sports show that you can make solid gains without the weight gains. Even on this forum we have many people who have proved it - hey i guess i am one of those since i have been in the 105 class for few years now

You're right. Instead of putting the conclusions in, I should've just left it that I *haven't* gained strength maintaining bodyweight instead of I *can't*. Looking at the graph I've never spent a lot of time around the same weight anyway so I shouldn't be making absolute conclusions.
But my plan of action remains the same, I know it works and want to get bigger and stronger.
Lordmuppet wrote:I think you are right that powerlifting is really not for you. How about Strongman though!?
It's early days yet but I'm not wanting to worry about staying in a certain weight barrier (and really shouldn't be anyway). I'll prob end up doing comps again within the next couple of years (possibly sooner). But I'm not really thinking about it just now.
Been having a shitty week, and mood's been getting worse. Sleeping isn't getting any easier. And my legs felt destroyed when I got up this morning
Fri 10th February 2012Boydweight = 84.9kgSquats (pause first and last rep)
1x5x60kg
1x5x72.5kg
1x5x80kg
Push Press1x5x47.5kg
1x3x52.5kg
1x8x60kg
Deadlift1x5x147.5kg (hook grip, no belt)
1x3x165kg (hook grip, no belt)
1x6x185kg (hook grip, belt)
Tried deadlifts with bands basically I managed one set with doubled blue small bands before the bands started pulling the DB's around under the bar. We'd already tried a different setup. I lost the plot, couldn't be fucked with it. Just tidied up, stretched and left.
Hook grip held up quite well on deads, could use it from now on. I kept a couple of reps in the tank today.
was there a time we weren't at war; when we knew what our hearts and hands were for?