powerlifer wrote:Firstly there is no caffeine in vega so that just isn't true. I also didn't say it was the superfood goodness, just that i feel much cleaner and more energetic starting my day with the wholefood optimizer over cereal/carbs such as oats.
Personally like i said the wholefood optimizer is more of a meal replacement rather than just a protein shake such as the soya you mentioned. The wholefood optimizer serves as a meal to me rather than just a protein shake, although it obviously doubles up as both. You start to mix 3 or 4 protein sources such as in the vega wholefood optimizer or the sport protein product and you'll see your price jack up(non-soy protein sources of course), then add in a 5g BCAA supp, 5 L-glutamine serving etc etc then it adds up, course its cheaper to just go with a standard soy or pea protein isolate and if thats what you want to do that is your choice. Hopefully one day they will bring the price down so that more people can enjoy there products.
Soy protein is cheap in bulk this can be a good thing or a bad thing, you have to remember that Soy is a common allergen for many so not everyone has the joys of being able to pick up 5 pounds of soy protein isolate at cheap prices. The next cheap option tends to always be pea protein isolate which tastes like crap in my opinion with standard unflavoured hemp protein not far behind unless you mix it in a fruit smoothie(which isn't always the most convient when im walking back from the gym). I could understand if the vega products just contained one protein such as hemp or pea with the flavourings and the extras, but they contain multiple plant protein sources that are non-soya so the price does add up. Start mixing yellow pea protein, hemp protein, organic brown rice protein and flax seed along with the other bits and pieces and you'll notice that your price has gone up substantially.
The vega products are well enjoyed by many vegans, myself included. Doesn't mean thats all i consume, i bulk my protein for the day out with cheaper sources also. I found the wholefood optimizer to be damn handy when i was transitioning to 100% vegan as often i would not have a clue what to eat, so a quick well rounded shake was pretty convient. Anyway there certainly not the only vegan protein/meal replacement on the market, your entitled to your opinion but it won't stop me from enjoying my daily vega shakes whether i continue to sell them in the future or not.
Anyway this thread has been derailed sorry, lets get back to the different plant based protein shakes.
I was pretty sure vega wfo contains yerba mate, which contains caffeine. I was wrong, it's the sports optimizer that has that, so could be the superfoods working their magic
or placebo. I have consumed lots of vega when I was able to get the kilo tub for $30, and never felt "cleaner" unless I had just showered. But, only about 4% of people have any food allergy at all and those that are actually allergic to soy instead of just pretending to be are generally allergic to other legumes as well, such as peas. So, non-soy will only be beneficial to the very small percentage of people allergic to soy, but not other legumes that are also in the market for a non-dairy supplement.
Of the protein sources in vega, the most expensive is hemp, which cost $10 a lb, pea protein cost the same as soy, and rice is just a bit more at $5.59/lb, flax seeds as I said before are $1.85/lb. If you knew how much of each component to put in, you could order a custom mix from one of the bulk supplement websites and it could not cost more than 1/3 the price of vega, then add another 15 to 17 cents a day for a multivitamin and you are set. The ingredients that make vega so expensive are hype and unreasonable mark up because it is a niche market.
I don't care if you drink gallons of vega every day. But, I don't agree with you coming on here saying the same things I hear the vega sales reps say in the health food store, and pretending as if it is your personal unbiased review, then providing a link to your web store. You also reacted the same way as the sales reps when I said it is way overpriced.
I had forgot about the now foods vegan meal, it has the hempy stevia taste but a bit different. Anything like that is going to taste kind of weird because hemp and stevia have strong flavors that don't cover up easily. But, it is about half the price, so a better option, still drinkable with plain water and shows how much vega products are trying to rape peoples wallets.
Supplements must be outrageously expensive outside the states if vega doesn't stand out as so much more expensive than others. A guy I know from the gym only spent $350 for a 12 week anabolic cycle last year. 12 weeks of vega would cost me $345.24 at regular price if I only took it once a day and I wouldn't have anywhere near the gains he got. 900 grams of creatine monohydrate cost like $18 and lasted me all year, bcaa's are cheap too but I haven't taken them in forever so don't remember exact price for quantity.