[quote="beforewisdom"]I have encountered 2 situations with trying to talk vegetarians into stop
1. People who became vegetarians because they were extreme animal lovers:
- Easy vegan converts.
2. People with an introspective bent who became vegetarian as the result of philosophical arguments
Resistance, some offense. This *group*, *tends* to take pride in a teen weeny bit of moral/political superiority. They do NOT
like being made aware of things that make them realize they are not perfectly living up to their own standards. Other people from this group can sometimes have a strong "I am already doing this" reaction, "I gave at the office, that is enough" attitude.
3. Health enthusiasts and vegetarians for the environment ( small group )
A relaxed attitude, but no sense of urgency to scale back more on animal products than they already are.
4. People born into vegetarianism as a result of religion
People in this *group* usually seem to be genuinely stunned/confused as to why people would want to take things further. Often they will quote their texts. This group often tends to have an affection for dairy products the way Westerners have an affection for beef.
IMHO, I think one of the easiest ways to get more vegans would be to target animal lovers.....dog and cat enthusiasts, by hosting events that they find useful ( dog training, teaching cats how to walk on leashes ), providing vegan treats, pro-vegan literature and being low key about each.
I have to get more involved in volunteering again and convince some of my local groups with resources to try that out.
That's got me thinking, I reckon it's pretty accurate. I think that environmental people in  want us all to eat a little bit of meat and don't accept that the best way of bringing down the average is to make their own zero. They also often want to differentiate themselves from animal people, who are more likelt to be vegan, and I think there's a subconcious feeling that not being vegan helps make that differentiation.
Or maybe I'm over analysing it?
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