Bigger, Stronger, Faster

[patvirt]

Not sure if there has been a thread about this already.
Watched it last night, it's on cable in AUS.

Was really interesting. Goes to show how ignorant people can be about things. I would never take steroids but that's a belief that I want to have natural strength.
My fav person in the movie was the father of the kid who died, dude was a weirdo.

[JP]

yeah there has been couple of threads:

http://www.veganfitness.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15233

and another one i cant find now

[patvirt]

I searched and nothing came up.
Maybe I'm just bad a searching haha.

[sosso]

Just bumping this up because I watched it last night.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8kExGzZfuM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9lfwIknpAU[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z2DqUr5jcY[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYIQ6Xr_jQM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An6kksgGaJk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gngr6OCayTI[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww7WqrB2M2o[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksw5Yavpa54[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5A2eVg-cto[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV0lnEsTWUg[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmu9Miorkp0[/youtube]

And a deleted scene

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE6uegoRiFk[/youtube]

[Orkje]

Call me naive, but I was shocked to hear and see Louie Simmons' reaction to steroid use in this documentary. Maybe I'm misinterpreting things, but his idea seems to be: "You train better, harder and more often when using them, which in turn will lead to better results, so they're necessary if you want to be the best."

In short, he didn't even display any disapproval regarding steroids. It was honest, but it did rankle me.

[baldy]

[quote="Orkje"]
In short, he didn't even display any disapproval regarding steroids. It was honest, but it did rankle me.

[blinki]

It made me curios about how much they tend to take. The sites I googled were suggesting 4-12 times a standard dose a doctor would prescribe for low levels of testosterone. Assuming they start with average levels then they must end up ridiculously high. I still can’t get my head round wanting to do that even after watching the film. I can get the urge to take some but even 4x what they label says is just something else.

[baldy]

[quote="blinki"]It made me curios about how much they tend to take. The sites I googled were suggesting 4-12 times a standard dose a doctor would prescribe for low levels of testosterone. Assuming they start with average levels then they must end up ridiculously high. I still can’t get my head round wanting to do that even after watching the film. I can get the urge to take some but even 4x what they label says is just something else.

[baldy]

[quote="blinki"]me curios about how much ... to take. The sites I googled .... for low levels of testosterone.

[Orkje]

[quote]It also should raise questions about following training programs that are intended for people on PED.

[xJimx]

[quote="Orkje"]Good point. Unwittingly using those programs might lead to injuries for people who play the game fairly.

[Orkje]

[quote]I don't think fairness really comes into it. If you're going to compete in an untested strength/bodybuilding contest of any type then it's obvious you'll be going up against folk using gear. You either accept that or move to a different federation.

[tal]

[quote="xJimx"]I don't think fairness really comes into it. If you're going to compete in an untested strength/bodybuilding contest of any type then it's obvious you'll be going up against folk using gear. You either accept that or move to a different federation.

[quote="baldy"][quote="blinki"]me curios about how much ... to take. The sites I googled .... for low levels of testosterone.

[quote="blinki"][quote="baldy"][quote="blinki"]me curios about how much ... to take. The sites I googled .... for low levels of testosterone.