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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby bob_summers » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:07 pm

fuck, that sounds like a hard day's work. But what a result! Well done. And the Americans?! Something fishy... maybe out training and happened on a finish line by chance! I guess that makes you 13th...
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby Alistar » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:48 pm

Thanks guys. Yeah a tough day out. Halfway round wished I'd done some speedwork as just didn't have the leg strength.
Ha ha! No I take it all back. Quality photos on the line in the local paper proved his top wasn't white but a beige/tan colour and I recognised him straight away :lol: So good on him.

Really enjoyed the race and a good course. Better than Around Taupo I reckon which gets heaps more publicity.
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby Alistar » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:30 am

Oh well took my rear wheel to the bike shop today and got them to tighten up some rattling sprockets on the cassette.
Beautiful beach weather the last couple of days but shit that Sun is strong! Lots of people doing great red lobster impressions. Me and the kids got a bit burnt even after taking precautions but not too bad.

Overcast today so did a nice loop up to the lower slopes of the mountain to Puke Iti gardens(around 475m) and then towards the sea intersecting the highway b/t Okato and Oakura. The mountain being a near perfect circle means you can cut out some decent pie shapes(in terms of rides) pretty quickly on the lower flanks meaning a decent ride home if you want it. Legs felt ok which was good. :) My CC is completely stuffed so only have my time to go on but probably did about 50ks

At least my HR was back to reasonable levels today not having to smash myself just to do a pretty av racing speed.

2hr2:24 50km
41 42 11 136A 169
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby bob_summers » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:08 am

I guess Puke isn't pronounced the same as the English word :D

(though if it is, it's up there with Poo, and Saint Pee in this neck of the woods!)
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby Alistar » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:54 pm

Ha ha! Yeah there's a lot of Maori words like that. But growing up here it doesn't even cross your mind about the other connotation. Yeah you pronounce each vowel seperately a bit like Japanese so its "poo-ke" rather than puke as you'd read it coming form a exclusively english speaking country. :)
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby Alistar » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:13 am

Forgot about a 25km ride with my Dad on Saturday avo getting him to spend a bit more time riding his newish bike and hopefully improve his fitness. Had a bit of a stressful morning so not up to a decent ride that day as I'd planned. Pretty slow and took us a couple of hrs but quite a nasty headwind for half of it and uphill from the coast to finish so hard work for the old fella.
Took the opportunity to put it in a really hard gear and do some strength work on the way back.

Another overcast day Sunday with wind blowing straight off the sea. Didn't look like rain at all in the morning so pedalled off at about 12pm. Same route as last time but went a bit furthur along the upper road before turning off down to the coastal highway. Lovely biking through the rainforest on narrow winding roads with no cars. Only saw 1 motorbike coming the other way the whole trip on the backroads before rejoining the highway :)

Turning back onto the main road after Parihaka rd had this fantastic tailwind so was flying. Lots of undulating not very steep hills so could power up the other side at a decent speed. Felt like a good cyclist for once. Funny how the direction of the wind can make you feel like a complete pleb or a bit of a pro :wink: Think I was just lucky I had no other cyclists around to burst my bubble :D
Anyway got a puncture about 15k's before home. Fixed it at the side of the road and felt everywhere in the tyre for remaining sharp objects, except for the 2 inches around the valve where the tyre was sitting which was lucky in one sense as would have sliced my finger. Not so lucky in another as my tube immediately went flat when I pumped it up :x So that was a bit annoying, but after removing the 3mm of dagger like glass was off again. Had bands of heavy dark rainclouds that were moving the same direction as me. I had been catching one up before my puncture but after getting a bit delayed the next one caught me up about 5mins from home. Typical torrential Taranaki rain meant I was soaked within a few seconds but not being cold just meant it was quite refreshing. However not so much fun during my warmdown.

3hrs5 78km
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby Alistar » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:31 am

Oh well back to the commute to work in ChCh. Haven't felt a quake since I've been back. Things seem to definitely be trending in the right direction which is good

Read Peter Snells book "Olympian to Scientist" in the holidays so have kind of reviewed my training (or the rel. unstructured and little of it I've been doing) His group of athletes were the 1st to use revolutionary at the time, training techniques in middle distance running under training genius Arthur Lydiard which enabled them to beat faster athletes due to being stronger at the end of the race when their other competitors succumbed to O2 debt in the last 200m or so. Up till then the other athletes used mainly interval training(lots of 200 and 400m reps) with little rest in b/t.
They on the other had did the long base running, then hillwork, then intervals to prepare for races. Interesting his fatest 800m time of 1:44 done on a grass track in 1963/4 is still quite competitive compared to todays athletes on modern tracks.
Even though perhaps at the time the training benefits using these techniques weren't thoroughly understood DR Peter Snell as an exercise physiologist later on has found validation to most of what Lydiard proposed fifty years ago.
However had this horrible chapter( not too long thankfully) of him doing animal experiments on rats as part of his degree back in the 1970's :( Apart from that was a pretty good book, so be warned.

So decided to try and be a bit more structured and not be in any rush to get performance results before I'm ready. Work on my base and keep my rides a bit slower and easier until I'm a bit more efficient and then turn the screws a bit later. Well thats the plan. Want to find better stamina in races and not flake out as early as I've been doing recently. Anyway feel the need to get back to basics.

2hrs2:08 51.3km
1hr03:09 141A 170max
58:59 back 147A 175max bit high, finding it hard to keep HR down
Gov to SOK 15:53
Col to SOK 18:51
Last hill 4min41 ( around 155hr or so)
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby Alistar » Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:38 am

Don't have a CC these days and actually quite like it. Been actively trying to keep the HR down on last few rides and definitely makes a difference afterwards in terms of fatigue and "couch suck". Instead of being pretty smashed. Not sure if its a good thing or a bad? but I spose you have to get the balance right... whatever that is :?

Anyway did my lyttelton run after work (love that ride) and couldn't believe my times to the various timepoints. Felt quite slow as I was keeping effort under control etc but was expecting to be a lot slower than I was. Perhaps I'm just getting the benefits of completely smashing myself a few weekends ago in my last race? Anyway have to get a few more regular rides in and try to build on it.

Got a 50k mtb race on Sunday which should be fun. Lots of hills so good training anyway :)

47km 1hr39:49
37 51 9 138a 171m

12:53 Whetsheaf
30:05 Govs
48:49 Lytt
1hrs9:12 Govs
Last hill 4:22 keeping close/under 155bpms as poss
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby Mr. Cleetus » Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:15 am

good training Al. Maybe you might benefit from chucking out your hill timer for a little while too, eh? Don't mistake the Lydiard stuff for being slow though, all of there long stuff was pretty solid/steady.
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby bob_summers » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:47 pm

How did this MTB race go Al?
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby Alistar » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:13 pm

Cheers Mr C. :) Yeah read their slow stuff was still around 70percent VO2 max and around 6min miles

Yeah not too bad thanks Bob. Luckily all the elite guys were up in Nelson for the NZ mtb series which put most of us on a pretty level playing field.
Anyway here's the profile for the elite race. :shock:

http://www.malvernlions.co.nz/bikerace/profile2012.pdf

So it started out allright along mainly gravel farm tracks and then after riding through fresh cow shit and a herd of cows we hit the hills. Holy shit! Pretty steady gradient straight up and up and up. My HR monitor started doing 4beeps which I hadn't heard before which meant I had exceeded my maxHR so seems my last HR record wasn't a mistake. Weird how I spent all those yrs thrashing myself in training and never got over 187. Perhaps my new HR monitor is just more accurate than the cheapies I had before? Anyway this wasn't because I was going mental up the slopes but because this is what was required to just keep the pedals turning. Kept pressing for a non existant gear as my 22 X 28 was too much of a grind. One guy had cleared out up ahead and me and this other guy were in 2nd and 3rd respectively. Strong guy soon was trying to fix his bent deraileur hanger at the side of the track so that was him gone :twisted: Just before the top of 1st ain rise it got steeper and it was a struggle to find traction on the loose surface and then this old legend( NZ agegroup TT and roadrace champ even if he is over 60 :oops: ) inches past me and the other guy. I shouldn't be ashamed as this guy is a complete freak and would be a World class rider in his AG. Always rides a fantastic tactical race and always finishes strongly unlike me. :x

So up the top was sticking to his tail and didn't bother going past him as although he was average at the descents he was the strongest climber. Just didn't see any point of passing, for him to catch me up immediately when it turned skywards but in hindsight probably a bit of a mistake as it allowed the guy behind to catch us up, him being a good descender. Along the crest before the big descent I went passed him and me and the other youngish guy started gapping him. Really quite technical up the top of the descent with big sharp fist sized rock on a sweeping 30percent grad corner which is prob where my mate slashed the sidewall of his new $80 speccy front 29er tyre (no idea how he made it to the finish with his tube ballooning out!). Anyway if you came off there you'd be pretty badly beaten up. Anyway after a few corners flew down the long straight steep descent, and must have hit 70kph+ as I was in the lead and thought the guy behind was a better descender on his FS 29er( from seeing him in other races) so was hands off the brakes and going for it. Shocks worked brilliantly as last yr was in agony going down there on my rigid in my hands and biceps from the jarring. Guy at the bottom reckoned that was the fastest he'd ever been on a mtb. Undulating at the bottom through a few fords and then we were in to the forest which was a fantastic fun track through shoulder high grass and little vehicle tracks you had to keep in, around fallen trees etc. Couldn't see any sign of the old guy who was too sensible on the down to take a gamble and risk injuring himself.
Both of us now in the lead who'd been beaten more than a few time by the old timer in Le Race etc knew that he'd be coming back so were trying to make the most of our lead. My legs started to flake out around the 2hr mark and then about halfway through the forest the guy made a burst for it up this average climb and I couldn't follow him. Stupid legs! Very soon he was out of sight and all I could think of was the old guy being a good TTer and a better climber would be catching. Looked around and no sign of him. Then when doing a small U turn at the end of the forest before heading back to the last long grind of a climb who should I catch sight of but "the old bastard!" about 10secs behind:x Didn't take him long to go past on the lower slopes(around the 42km mark?) and like a metronome was still climbing as strong as he was at the start of the race. :? I on the other hand was fading badly and just trying to coax the body to the finish. Had seen the leader perhaps only 2minutes ahead on the climb and thought "enjoy it while it lasts" as the old boy wasn't giving up and was looking for the win.
I was in a bad state by this stage and was just trying to keep the pedals ticking over and had this sense that the whole field would soon be passing me. Walked up this pinch climb as knew I couldn't clear it and then when trying to get back on my bike went sideways and failed. Looked back and this guy huffed his way past. Followed him for a bit but then let him go. The last main climb just went on and on up into the mist and drizzle and I was just crawling. Kept thinking the next undulation was the top but then it wasn't. Seemed to take forever and got passed by another guy after walking up a longish steep section. Got back on and followed him to the top and down the other side to the bottom. Just a few undulations to go but the track was pretty hard to find and then the guy ahead just disapeared. No idea where he went and wonder if he perhaps went around the last pinch climb on a sheep track instead of going around the markers as I nearly did myself?

So a bit disapointed on how much time I lost in the finish, and my lack of stamina, but given my training I shouldn't expect much more than 2hrs out of myself at max effort. Actually felt pretty good until the legs died :lol:

Old guy won and totally demoralised the guy in 2nd according to him and put 3mins into him by the finish. Must have put at least 10 into me :(

Luckily all the guys who passed me were over 40 so I won my category(<40) winning a family jet boat ride voucher even tho I came 5th overall :D

Just checked posted results and they must have made a mistake at prizegiving as I came 2nd in the <40's

3hrs21:45 54km 1700m climbing
3 16 80 168Av :shock: 191M 2647KCal
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby Alistar » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:00 am

Totally smashed on the Tues commute to work. Really tough going and my legs weren't working to well

16:47 Govs to SOK
20:50 Dyers
Last hill 4:41 @ 155bpms

1hr3 there and back
2hr06:52 24.4kphAv
40 43 11 136A 167M
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby Alistar » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:42 am

Another crap day weatherwise. :x Still waiting for Summer to start. :( Been shit 17degree days, and a cold wind blowing. Low grey drizzle cloud was sitting up at about 300m over the Crater Rim. Reasonable Nor Easter blowing so good to top of Gebbs. Felt pretty strong starting out like I'd got a bit of benefit from the race last Sunday. Legs were pretty shot so was taking it easy this week so no rides since Tuesday. HR was steady and a bit low, but not too bad (like exhaustion) but good in a way as its been running pretty high recently which often happens when you're too fresh :wink:

Only took short sleeves so was pretty miserable riding into the cloud up the top of the Bastard, headwind, crap visibility and cold drizzle so was glad to leave it behind on Descent to SOK.
Around past Tai Tapu was crazy seeing the blanket of thick cloud just stop and evaporate after the hills in a pre determined line, so was blue skies and sunny over there, and I started getting a bit hot.
Back towards Gebbs in the stronh H wind was soon under the cloud canopy, wasn't super keen to head up The Bastard and SOK and headwind etc for another time but needed the k's and climbing. Cloud had lowered another 100m and started getting a bit cold with my fingers starting to go numb in the wet. Legs started tying up a bit up the B but not too bad. Drizzle set in again after the Wheatsheaf, and was suprised to hear it had set in at my place only a few minutes after I left, as apart from the big B and the Summit Rd was mainly dry on my ride.
Pleased my time up the big B wasn't too much slower on the 2nd time up. Most of that time was lost to the 1st cattlestop before it kicks up after my effort up the harder side of Gebbies.

12:35 Wheatsheaf
16:03 B Gebbs(from bridge)
22:50 T Gebbs
31:06(18:16) T Bastard
59:59 SOK
1hr56:30 Black Tulip
2hr07:13 B Gebbs
2hrs15:04 T Gebbs
2hrs34:02 (18:58) T Bastard
2hrs55:00 SOK
Last hill 4min46

3hrs30:38 90.6km 25.8kph Av
49 31 14 136A 170M 2010KCal
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby bob_summers » Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:25 pm

Fantastic in the race Al, sounds like a toughie. That's a scary HR avg - glad you're still with us after 3hrs of that ;-)
Anything else on the calendar to take advantage of your form?
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Re: Al's cycling log.

Postby Alistar » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:18 am

Cheers Bob. :) Yeah I know! Bit of a worry. :o Would have been nice having a bit of intensity training in the legs. Not that strong atm so harder on the heart and lungs to try and keep up the pace.

Yeah forms ok, but still got a bit of work to do on my strength and stamina. Need to do some weekly 4hr+ rides I reckon.
Got a mtb race I may be doing on the 26th if I can organise the transport. One of those straightline rather than loop racers which always makes organisation a bit harder.

Commute day today. Late so had to rush so no taking it easy. Felt pretty good like I've moved on a little from the plateau I've been on for months. Found it a bit hard getting used to a higher intensity. But about time I put a bit more of that in from now on. Felt pretty good coming home so did a bit of an effort up Dyers. Slowed down for a min or so to talk to this guy I know. Then another effort up the Last hill.

12:29 Wheaty
29:26 Govs
43:56 SOK
58:22 there 152A
18:10 SOK
Last hill 3:39 @ 168 to 170HR

51.3km 1hr56:00 26.53Av
24 32 41 147A 178M
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