Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby seasiren » Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:11 pm

Rach wrote:Your log and goals sound exciting and I look forward to following :D Sorry to hear about your health problems also. Re shoes, I've got the oly lifting shoes from strength shop uk and they are great for squatting. Strongwoman set up in your garage sounds awesome. Happy lifting for 2012!


Thank you! I'm looking at shoes, but have a way to go since I can't lift worth a sh*t right now anyway, haha So I have time to research. Getting DH to open a bay for me may be a challange! If not I'll compromise by adding on another room to the house :P

downhillingdemon wrote:Great to see you back :D

Heavy lifting ftw!


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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby Lordmuppet » Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:34 pm

seasiren wrote:
Rach wrote:Your log and goals sound exciting and I look forward to following :D Sorry to hear about your health problems also. Re shoes, I've got the oly lifting shoes from strength shop uk and they are great for squatting. Strongwoman set up in your garage sounds awesome. Happy lifting for 2012!


Thank you! I'm looking at shoes, but have a way to go since I can't lift worth a sh*t right now anyway, haha So I have time to research. Getting DH to open a bay for me may be a challange! If not I'll compromise by adding on another room to the house :P

downhillingdemon wrote:Great to see you back :D

Heavy lifting ftw!


Thanks!


Agreed those are great shoes but if you want an all purpose one (i don't like to deadlift in olympic shoes) the one's frostfire (see her log) just bought are cheap, vegan and non sweatshop. I have them too.

Course if you are allowed barefoot/ballet slippers/deadlift slippers will work fine.

Just avoid trainers/sneakers.
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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby seasiren » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:09 pm

Lordmuppet wrote:Agreed those are great shoes but if you want an all purpose one (i don't like to deadlift in olympic shoes) the one's frostfire (see her log) just bought are cheap, vegan and non sweatshop. I have them too.

Course if you are allowed barefoot/ballet slippers/deadlift slippers will work fine.

Just avoid trainers/sneakers.


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Monday:
Squat 5x5
Press 5x5
Row 5x5

Training was fine but crashed immediately after so didn't post right away.

Fibro Alert: still can't walk properly of course, 3 day headache now. I went to Dr's yesterday and wanted it laid on the line for me. I was told, they don't know much about this, there is a not cure, it will get worse, I will never be able to work (thus my quality of life continues to deteriorate) they can run more tests, and he tried peddling lots of drugs again, then charged me $200 for the visit. I think the drug company sales person must have been through as Dr actually argued with me on an anti-depressant. He tried to prescribe it and I told him repeatedly .... (me)"but I'm not depressed", (dr) "But you have to be", (me)"yet I'm not", (dr) "well you have to be, this is hard, so I'll just write you up..." This went on for a while. I "won".

So here's my rant: I do not want to be drugged up, I am NOT depressed. I do not want seizure meds for the few seziures I had, the last one was 4 years ago. I do not want prescription drugs in my system, they screw me up everytime. I will not be your drug test dummy. I do not want to run the same tests again. I do not want to be told yet again that the blood type diet is a good idea. From an article "The first thing we were taught in the pharmacology course in medical school was that all drugs are toxic." Whereas I believe that prescription medicine has it's place, if you don't know what's wrong with me, stop wanting to overload my system. And on that note, it's time for a new Dr.

Here is my thoughts: I refuse to believe that this is it, that I will only continue into an abyss of pain and health issues. (FYI - my Grandfather, one of the strongest men I knew, ended it all after many years of pain and no explaination. He was never depressed and fought til the end. The pain was simply to much to bear after years of it). I refuse to believe that there is no "cure" or moreover a way to alliviate some symptoms and stop the progression. So I'll continue to fight. And win.
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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby seasiren » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:21 pm

OK, Dr has my thyroid totally messed up, had me on to low a dose of synthroid, tested raised it, tested raised it, now testing and it's still low. A 23lb weight gain since July on my diet is impossible unless something else is messed up. I am switching docs but will kill this one with honey to make him raise the meds to the dose I should be on. This could account for some of my issues. So going to have to change a few things until I get that portion of my health on track. I got this!!!! ;-)

This week, I backed down to 1200 calories until Dr gets my Thyroid right as I was gaining at an impossible rate. Therefore I backed off the 5x5 training so not to get hurt or be counter productive.

I did train yesterday and it was by far the best session I have had in many, many months!

DB Shoulder Press 3x8
One Arm DB Side Lat Raise 3x8
DB Bench Press 3x8
DB Flies 3x8
Skull Crushers 3x8
DB Kick Backs 3x8

I did a scarce tread as well for 30min.


Fibro Alert: Today aside from DOMS which is welcomed, Feet, ankles and really really bad knees. Elbows and Hands as well, hands feel swollen, but are not. I feel up the stairs today .... yes up the stairs, lol Legs just gave out. Quite irritating I must say, I really need to get things done today, but when walking across the house is a major event, it's exhausting. On a side note I'm working on eliminating the wheat and gluten, all the bloating went away within a day, it will be a while to see if there is anything else positive about it.
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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby Lordmuppet » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:11 pm

things sound very hard :(

keep on fighting the good fight!
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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby seasiren » Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:31 pm

Lordmuppet wrote:things sound very hard :(

keep on fighting the good fight!


Thank you!

I'm 2lbs down in a week, in the right dose I should come down fairly easily (haha, I'm sure we have all heard that before!)
DH has been less then supportive (putting it nicely), being alone in a strange state with no family and friends .... I think I may need to go home for a while.

Training this afternoon, I feel better today then yesterday for sure so I am looking forward to it!
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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby seasiren » Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:04 pm

Training went well, although not as strong as Friday's.

One Arm DB Rows 3x8
Bent over BB Rows 3x8
Lower Back Extensions 3x8
Standing BB Curls 3x8
Alternating DB Curls 3x8
Hammer Curls 3x8

And then another 30min tread.

Fibro Alert: Yesterday (Tuesday) was horrid! I was at the grocery store in quite a bit of pain and just over half way through was not sure I was going to make it out. My feet were in such pain my ankles didn't want to support my weight and my legs started crumbling. Luckily my eldest was with me and I made it through. I'm always with my little one (almost 2), so getting from the car to a cart (for support) can be so hard. It seems everything is spiriling and I need to figure this out.



To reitterate I have several Fibromyalgia followers so I am trying to be as informative as possible and fill in some blanks.

Some History:
on meds: I tried Klonopin, I am VERY medication sensitive and my reaction to them can be pretty bad (paralysis on one, very very scary being hauled off in ambulance). With Klonopin I was disoriented and a complete zombie. Everything became sureal and I was unable to make connections regarding cause and consequence. By week two I was running red lights .... I saw the light, I knew it was red. But my brain would see it, keep driving, oh I need to stop, keep driving, only then did my brain make the connection of the thought to the reaction (hitting the break), by then I had blown it. I would get lost in my own town, etc. I also began to lose speech. So it was a no go for me. Anything more than Ibuprophen knocks me out and I'm down for the day. They could not wake me up on Vicadin. So I do not take anything except vitamins. I am trying to treat myself with food. The drugs are not a cure, they are a cover .... to cope so to speak. So if it's not a cure, I don't want them. Every time the side effects were quite terrible.

I now have:
chronic fatigue
weakness
irritability
congestion –no dairy helps this
joint pain
Vitamin and/or mineral deficiencies - this is past, I am now 100% on my plan not the Drs.
Headaches (including migraines)
Joint/bone pain
listlessness
Seizures -this is past, now 4 yrs ago, on my plan not the Drs
Clumsiness (ataxia)
No sense of balance
loss of equilibrium
severe vertigo
Respiratory problems
Lactose intolerance
Hair loss (alopecia)
Bruising easily
strange injuries
Muscle cramping –magnesium helps some, potassium did not help
Night blindness
Abdominal distention –gluten free completely alleviates this
Chronic muscle pain, muscle spasms or tightness, weakness in the limbs, and leg cramps
Insomnia
waking up feeling just as tired as when I went to sleep
Stiffness upon waking or after staying in one position for too long
Difficulty remembering, concentrating, and performing simple mental tasks (“fibro fog”)
Sensitivity to odors, bright lights, medications, certain foods, and cold
Numbness or tingling in the arms, hands, legs, and feet
Increase in urinary urgency or frequency (irritable bladder)
Reduced tolerance for exercise and muscle pain after exercise – heavy weights help, but the day after is pretty painful (not DOMS)
A feeling of swelling (without actual swelling) in the hands and feet
Dizziness
Cravings for carbohydrates
Morning stiffness
Allergies
Shortness of Breath
Sleep Starts (falling sensations)
Irritable bowel syndrome -gluten free completely alleviates this
Difficulty speaking known words
Directional disorientation
Short-term memory impairment
Confusion
Trouble Concentrating
Staring into space before "brain kicks in”
Inability to recognize familiar surroundings
Irregular Heartbeat (fluttery)
Pronounced nail ridges

The toughest thing is, I (and those with Fibromyalgia) don't look sick! And when we are out on a good day people are like "see, she is just fine". It's a really frustrating condition.

On a final note, I am experimenting with diet. You would think, just eat whole food, but that has not worked. However, I'm no stranger to extreme food choices, so I may try to give it a whirl again. So long as the caloric intake is there and the macros in place, why not? It can't hurt (I hope), lol

With all that said, I am very confident that there is something that will work!

Have a great day everyone!
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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby Lordmuppet » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:47 pm

sorry stuff is so hard just now :(

as regards stiffness I'm assuming you've tried heat and static stretching in the morning right? Sorry if this is super obvious :( I just mention because it has helped me in the past when my wrist was super stiff in the mornings.
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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby Frostfire » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:32 pm

seasiren wrote:The toughest thing is, I (and those with Fibromyalgia) don't look sick! And when we are out on a good day people are like "see, she is just fine". It's a really frustrating condition.

Wow Seasiren, I totally hear you! I have RA (rheumatoid arthritis, also called rheumatoid autoimmune disorder). My list of complaints is far less than yours (!) so I have no room to complain, but it is also an invisible disease. People look at me, or see me lifting at the gym (when I'm able) and they say I can't possibly be sick! Its very frustrating because doctors, friends, my boyfriend always think I'm exaggerating the pain and that I'm just weak or not tough enough. Don't let people, especially doctors, write off your complaints! Stay strong :)
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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby seasiren » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:57 pm

Lordmuppet wrote:sorry stuff is so hard just now :(

as regards stiffness I'm assuming you've tried heat and static stretching in the morning right? Sorry if this is super obvious :( I just mention because it has helped me in the past when my wrist was super stiff in the mornings.



I'm glad you posted it, any advice is welcome :) Right now I can't touch my toes anymore, my flexibility is about nil and it hurts like heck. I'm actually considering trying yoga (which has never been my thing), to see if it helps at all. Heat doesn't work thus far.
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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby seasiren » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:58 pm

Frostfire wrote:
seasiren wrote:The toughest thing is, I (and those with Fibromyalgia) don't look sick! And when we are out on a good day people are like "see, she is just fine". It's a really frustrating condition.

Wow Seasiren, I totally hear you! I have RA (rheumatoid arthritis, also called rheumatoid autoimmune disorder). My list of complaints is far less than yours (!) so I have no room to complain, but it is also an invisible disease. People look at me, or see me lifting at the gym (when I'm able) and they say I can't possibly be sick! Its very frustrating because doctors, friends, my boyfriend always think I'm exaggerating the pain and that I'm just weak or not tough enough. Don't let people, especially doctors, write off your complaints! Stay strong :)


I have RA as well and was finally referred to the specialist on it. It is a terrible disease so you have every right to complain! :lol:


Yesterday:

Squats 3x8
Straight Leg Deads 3x8
Seated Calf Raises 3x8
Leg Extensions 3x8
Lying Leg Curls 3x8
Standing Calf Raises 3x8

The Calf Raises were terribly painful for my ankles. Now how I can squat and be not terribly uncomfortable and the calf raises were so bad, I would love to know! I'll start posting lbs on Monday and I will most likely have to modify training as I go if the pain is too much to bear.

Fibro Alert: Yesterday was actually a low pain day. Of course still can't walk like a normal person, some discomfort in knees, ankles, hands and elbows. Today however, walking is really tough, I told DH that we have to get a railing for the short (3 steep steps) down into the mud room. It's to hard to negotiate now.

Snowing today! Boo! haha, but I have to brave it to get some errands run. Have a wonderful day everyone!
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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby Frostfire » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:41 pm

seasiren wrote:I have RA as well and was finally referred to the specialist on it. It is a terrible disease so you have every right to complain! :lol:

Glad you are going to a specialist! They tend to know more than your average general practitioner, but don't hold your breath. All doctors are idiots! :lol:
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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby seasiren » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:23 pm

Frostfire wrote: but don't hold your breath. All doctors are idiots! :lol:


That is for sure! :lol:



Before I get to far behind (which I tend to do!):

I was in to much pain to lift Friday so trained Saturday. This was completely devestating as I had to cut my weight by 2/3!!!! I simply could not lift anything heavier. How the heck I am supposed to make any gains by cutting my weights that much is beyond me. I guess I will just have to say that at the very least I am lifting to my ability and getting it done.

Sat:
Bench 3x8
Flies 3x8
Seated DB Shoulder Press 3x8
Single Arm DB Side Lat Raise 3x8
Skull Crushers 3x8
Tricep Kick Backs 3x8

Sun: rest

Monday: Severe shoulder pain, could not lift the weight of my own arms, could not make a fist with on hand, thus no gripping ability. I was walking a bit better so 30 min tread.

So far this morning feeling ok, so resuming where I left off.

Would you believe I have yet to watch Forks over Knives? Watching today and looking forward to it!
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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby Rach » Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:13 am

seasiren wrote:OK, Dr has my thyroid totally messed up, had me on to low a dose of synthroid, tested raised it, tested raised it, now testing and it's still low. A 23lb weight gain since July on my diet is impossible unless something else is messed up. I am switching docs but will kill this one with honey to make him raise the meds to the dose I should be on. This could account for some of my issues. So going to have to change a few things until I get that portion of my health on track. I got this!!!! ;-)
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Hey Denise I also take thyroxine (t4 called Eltroxin in UK) and am not medically qualified, but have been told by endocrinologist that I should be aiming to be on a dose of T4 that places TSH, the Thyroid Stimulating Hormone in the lower end of the normal reference range. I feel best when the medication is adjusted so that this is indeed the case. Maybe you could ask your doctor where your TSH lies within the reference range.I empathise with the weight gain, when I was severely hypo I also put on weight very easily despite a very restricted diet. Good luck :)
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Re: Through the Haze ... Road to Strong

Postby Lordmuppet » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:27 am

so here you say you can't make a fist and the arms also had no strength. However, if it is ever the case that the arms CAN lift but the hand CAN'T grip you should try some (good there are many crap ones) lifting hooks. I've been using mine to deadlift throughout my wrist injury.
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