DB wrote:Interesting you should pose this question given PETA's new angle. Or is that why you ask?
I don't know. I've never given it much thought.
Fallen_Horse wrote:Watching it. Good, neutral, or bad? (for the individual, society, etc.)
it is only when sex media is mixed with capitalism and profit and ownership and workers and owners that porn gets tied in with the myriad other problems out there.
xrodolfox wrote:Now that you place what you wrote in context, I think it makes more sense the unsatisfactory nature of the responses.
I think there are a few studies on men watching porn alone and their affects on their sexuality, their likelihood to cheat on their spouse, etc.. Perhaps you can look through those. From what I remember, watching porn didn't actually cause men to view women as sex objects 24-7, but often it was a way in which to let out sexual tension without impacting their relationships.
However, regardless of what the studies say, what you experience yourself is much more important. There is no need to make blanket rules or theories about what other people experience in the bedroom and when watching porn when what is really important is what happens in your bedroom. Sexual life should really not be about keeping up (or down) with the Joneses.
For example, my wife and I have many friends who are in long-term, committed poly amorous relationships. IMO, poly relationships can be healthy, happy, ethical romantic relationships. However, that doesn't mean that they are for me. I know myself, and I know my limits, and right now, and in the forseeable future, I am not emotionally fine with poly relationships as my relationships.
Same with porn. I find porn on it's basis ethical, but I don't watch much, just as I find spicy food intriguing, but I don't eat much.
If you find porn to disrupt your life, then it matters very little that the Jones down the street watch porn alone every night, and then ravishes her partner every morning in a fullfilling sexual life; or that Smith down the way watches porn every two days and finds himself lusting after everything with a pulse and has a tepid un-torrid affair and never wants to have sex with his wistfully disinterested partner.
If you find yourself having problems with lust, then don't watch porn. Perhaps the problem isn't the media, perhaps the problem is you, and the sooner you address it, the sooner you'll be free and on your way to happy satisfaction.
veganlifter wrote:I think if watching porn becomes compulsive / obsessive it is obviously bad, however the same could be said of anything. I don’t think porn by its nature is necessarily a negative device and its effect depends on a whole myriad of factors. I would argue that if watching porn becomes obsessive this is mealy a symptom of some deeper underlying problem.
As for saying that watching porn makes an individual behave in a certain way towards people I think this is quite a simplistic way of viewing things. This would depend heavily on the individual and their motivations, expectations associated with the porn watching in the first place. Eqally you could ask if watching a violent movie make a well balanced person become more violent towards other people?
I am also intrigued where you say that “I think that sex should only happen in a partnership where the couple has developed emotional and mental attachments to each other” Just wonder why you feel this way? Surely if you have two consenting adults who are happy to have sex without emotional attachment, why is this wrong?
Also when I read discussions relating to pornography I always hear feminist arguments about the exploitation of women in porn, although nobody ever talks about gay porn?
Fallen_Horse wrote:xrodolfox wrote:If you find yourself having problems with lust, then don't watch porn. Perhaps the problem isn't the media, perhaps the problem is you, and the sooner you address it, the sooner you'll be free and on your way to happy satisfaction.
Good post, thanks! I sense some tacit implications on my character?
xrodolfox wrote:To be clear, I'm not at all attacking your character. You have quite a lot of character to address this in the open in the first place. That takes guts. I've never had the courage to address my issues like this publicly. I'm too cowardly in that department. You get kudos from me. You are likely to be end up happier than folks like me who just don't talk about it.
But if you *are* going to be happy, you might as well do it 100% and make sure that the real problem you are addressing are you problems. If it in fact is the nature of the media itself, then so be it... but from what you've written, I suspect that it is the nature of your interaction with pornographic media that is the real issue.
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