Fallen_Horse wrote:Secondly, the captive stun bolt method has been show to keep the animal awake in up to 20% of factory farm kills. When the jugular is appropriately cut the animal loses all blood flow to the brain within a very short amount of time.
JP wrote:the right wing makes a huge deal out of this - you have to think it in context.
For vegans to favour one way of killing over another when there is hardly any difference you would get very strange bedfellows (racists etc)
Its fucking ridiculous i think - like the right wing gave a fuck about the animals. Their whole life they can be mistreated, raised in crammed locations, separated from their mothers, transported in fear and panic in horrible conditions - and now they try to say they care about animals or that one split second of their lives? Give me a fucking break!
JP wrote:not familiar with the guy at all, never heard.
But he is right than in many ways people in the left are a bit worried about criticising muslims in the fear of supporting right wings arguments, and actually end up playing in the pockets of the right wing.
Its about how you direct the criticism - for me as an atheist it would mean opposing mosques as much as churches, or getting upset about any religious teaching which is oppressive against women, gays, or usually the majority in the affected communities.
JP wrote:For vegans to favour one way of killing over another when there is hardly any difference you would get very strange bedfellows (racists etc)
Give me a fucking break!
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