skoptic wrote:mabli wrote:I think its very much worse to meet an ex vegan or veggie than someone who hasnt even considered animal rights yet... there's always the chance the omnivore will find enlightenment.
This is the thing I don't agree with (not having a go at you Mabli - but I get the impression a lot of people feel like this). I think it's easy to go after those who are quite close to your way of thinking, whether that's in diet, music or any subculture. I have no idea why I should respect an omni that has never considered any form of veggie or veganism more than one who has given it a go!
As for weakness..... I suppose everyone here citing weakness has succeeded in everything they have ever done in life!? Well aren't you the perfect, model humans
Hey skoptic its ok to have a go Im tough enough i think
It just annoys me massively when Im sat in a group of people and i have to listen to someone whine on about how hard it was to be vegan/veggie.. i cant combat with "you're wrong!" cos its their life experience. This gives omnis totally the wrong impression of veganism/veggie.
Im citing weakness cos I cant think of any other reason why someone would eat meat when they've been veggie for 7 years or so... and then carry on eating meat. I genuinly dont understand it, once you realise an animal is a person how do you go back on that idea and start eating them?(assuming you are veggie for ethical reasons).
Actually Im not saying you should respect an omni, just ive got more chance of convincing an omni to eat less meat and dairy than when ive got some tit sitting next to me claiming they got terribly weak and ill cos they didnt have bacon butties and the whole conversation revolves around their big fat pathetic exscuses when it had been gearing towards the multi benefits of veganism!!!
As I say I get the feeling they talk to me about it cos they want to connect with me on common ground but they just really annoy me
I accept what you say about sub cultures, but i dont think someone who reverts to being an omni is close to my subculture... whatever that is, but I happily coexist with veggies