Hiking Fox wrote:
The Duke wrote:How soon people forget.
My questions for anyone (not that I expect there are many on here) who voted Tory are:
1. Do you have private healthcare?
2. Are you too young to remember the 1980s?
If the answer to either of these questions is no, then ...why?
Why would you not expect there to be many Tories on here?
It's a secret ballot, so why should anyone fess up?
Anyway I'm happy to say in all seriousness I did not (and could not, probably ever) vote Conservative, but I can see two answers to the questions posed
1. The NHS is bloated and smothered with kindness by the Labour Party in a kind of ideological Munchusen's by proxy committed against Nye Bevan's baby. It has given it money, but what has it been spent on? More managers. £12 billion on a fucking computer system that doesn't work. 30,000 less beds since 1997. Etc. Personally I don't think Labour has done much less to fuck it up than the Conservatives did. In some ways more. It could have revolutionized it by the single act of getting on the blower to the BMA to either pack up their shit about capping the number of medical students trained to inflate doctors' pay or expect a visit from the SAS in half an hour to cap them
. I suppose Tony Blair might have been able to achieve that in nicer words, although Gordon might not have had a phone left to call with. Anyway he only bullies his office juniors.
2. Counter-question: To anyone who voted Labour, are you too young to remember the 1970s? I say that not to belittle the point you make, Hiking Fox, as it's a very valid one. But I think it might capture the problem with British politics in that it lurches from left to right (or more recently, red and blue conservatives) and much of each lurch is spent undoing the excesses and failings of the previous one. I think that the recent "Clegg effect" has amounted even less in substance than I suggested in my earlier post goes to show that not much will change. Time will tell with regard to any coalition. Thing with democracy is that one often gets the government one deserves.
I suspect the bottom line is that many voted not for the Tories but against Labour. Here's a short list why that might be.
It's by the Tories so do take it with due caution but it does largely check out under scrutiny.http://www.conservatives.com/pdf/Labour ... liures.pdf
Although it could be to do with just one reason - to get rid of that that unelected, incompetent, incontinent bully. I'm surprised the man can spell courage in his illegible felt-tip pen scribble let alone write a fucking book on it. About the only thing he could do with an ounce of courage now is ask the nice Constable stood outside the Führerbunker to borrow his Glock in lieu of a mess Webley. Maybe that's why the duty rumour goes he was sedated this morning?