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Legal protection for vegans

Postby Konstantin » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:30 am

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/p ... 052580.ece
The Sunday Times. 7 March 2010.
Don’t mock my lentils: vegans to get discrimination rights.
Marie Woolf, Whitehall Editor

VEGANS and teetotallers are to be given the same protection
against discrimination as religious groups, under legislation
championed by Harriet Harman, the equalities minister.
Members of cults and “new religions” such as Scientology,
whose supporters include the film stars Tom Cruise and John
Travolta, would also be offered protection, as would atheists.
A code of practice explaining the legal implications of the
equality bill states that religions need not be mainstream or
well known for their adherents to gain protection. “A belief
need not include faith or worship of a god or gods, but must
affect how a person lives their life or perceives the world.”
The code, drawn up by the Equality and Human Rights
Commission, singles out vegans, who do not eat any animal
products or wear leather, as meriting protection from
religious discrimination. It says: “A person who is a vegan
chooses not to use or consume animal products of any kind.
That person eschews the exploitation of animals for food,
clothing, accessories or any other purpose and does so out of
an ethical commitment to animal welfare.”
A spokesman from the commission explained: “This is about
someone for whom being vegan or vegetarian is central to who
they are. This is not something ‘thought up by the
commission’. Parliament makes the law, the courts interpret it
and the commission offers factual and proportionate guidance
to organisations where necessary. We are providing guidance on
the implications of the equality bill.”
The legislation also covers “any religious belief or
philosophical belief” and even “a lack of belief”.
Philosophical beliefs to be protected could include humanism
and pacifism, but a spokesman for Harman said scientific or
political beliefs such as Marxism and fascism would not be
covered. The commission added that the recently founded
International Church of Jediism, with 500,000 followers
worldwide who base their philosophy on the Star Wars films,
would not qualify. Beliefs had to be heartfelt.
The watchdog also warns that advertisements giving
preferential treatment to men or women could be illegal. This
could mean the end of “ladies’ nights” at clubs, when women
receive cut-price drinks or free entrance but men pay full
price. People for whom abstention from alcohol was a way of
life would also be protected. Conversely, the bill would make
it unlawful for a shopkeeper to refuse to sell cigarettes to a
woman because she was pregnant.
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Re: Legal protection for vegans

Postby ninearms » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:02 am

Konstantin wrote:Conversely, the bill would make it unlawful for a shopkeeper to refuse to sell cigarettes to a woman because she was pregnant.


This is an odd one, given that the shopkeeper isn't legally obliged to sell anything to anyone.
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Postby Gelert » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:16 am

This is a bad day for veganism, when it's mentioned in the same breath as scientology and Harriet Harman.

Interesting that Marxism and fascism qualify as "political or scientific." The former I understand, the latter is intriguing.
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Postby longdogs » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:42 pm

Did anyone in the UK hear this being discussed on Radio 2 today? It could have been worse, but i was a bit disappointed not one single person pointed out what to me is the salient point- discrimination against animals, not vegans, is the problem. We can speak up for ourselves ..
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Postby Hiking Fox » Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:44 pm

Challenge; somebody find a newspaper headline in which the word 'vegans' does not appear alongside the word 'lentils'.
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Postby beforewisdom » Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:17 pm

mmmm, lentils

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Postby Gelert » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:16 pm

Top point longdogs.

Hiking Fox wrote:Challenge; somebody find a newspaper headline in which the word 'vegans' does not appear alongside the word 'lentils'.


I win! What do I win?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... chdog.html

The draft code, currently under consultation, singles out vegans....The code added that beliefs must “attain a certain level of cogency, seriousness, cohesion and importance”, apparently ruling out the likes of Jedi-ism, which is based on the philosophy of Star Wars films.


It gets worse. Harriet Harman thinks we're cogent, serious, cohesive and important. We're fvcked.
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Postby xJimx » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:39 pm

This sort of story is like manna from heaven for the Fail & its readership:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1256264/Harriet-Harmans-equality-law-cover-vegans-teetotallers-atheists.html

Cue plenty of:

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Postby Asleep on a sunbeam » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:43 pm

xJimx wrote:This sort of story is like manna from heaven for the Fail & its readership:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1256264/Harriet-Harmans-equality-law-cover-vegans-teetotallers-atheists.html

Cue plenty of:

Veganism. A western luxury and an insult to all those in genuine hunger around the world.


I couldn't find that quote anywhere, was it in one of the comments?
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Postby xJimx » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:04 pm

Yes it was a reader's comment. The stories themselves are pretty funny but it's the comments that accompany them where the real comedy gold is to be found.
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Postby ninearms » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:03 pm

xJimx wrote:Yes it was a reader's comment. The stories themselves are pretty funny but it's the comments that accompany them where the real comedy gold is to be found.


You should check out the Speak You're Branes blog, content cleaned from the comments pages of the BBC's Have Your Say pages, with the occasional contributions from the Mail.

http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/
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Postby xJimx » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:44 pm

Ha that blog's genius, especially:

We should have hung them when they were ten. Killing children is wrong and should be punished by death.


:lol:
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Postby baldy » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:26 pm

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/fe ... jokes.html

Related, but the jokes are not even funny. Well the how many vegans to change a light bulb one is funny but old.
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Postby Gelert » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:26 pm

I laughed so hard I nearly shat.

Q: What's a vegan's favourite chat up line?

A: If I said you had the body of an all-natural, organic-living, animal-loving, environment-nurturing, whale-saving sex machine, would you hold it against me? Please?


Fair one. I have a body just like that. Under my patio.
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Postby thestoatyone » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:13 pm

I quite like the vegan zombie one.
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