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Postby mabli » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:54 pm

40 min workout and a half hour run which is a bit rubbish and I dont even feel achy so obviously not doing something right!

Loads of lovely walking tomorrow, its my last day of real freedom before I go back to being told what to do in work :cry:

Im losing inches (or cm) I dont need to undo my pants to pull them off, bit mad Ive not really increased my exercise for that long and I have forced myself to eat loads.
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Postby mabli » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:16 pm

We were going to walk to Siabod but the snowey hail worried me a bit so we walked from R0wen by Cae Coch up Tal y Fan and around. The hail actually followed me most of the way, it felt as if I had my own little storm, where I had been was always calm as was where I was about to go. Not sure how far we walked, the wind didn’t rest. Have some nice photos though.

40 min workout too. Tomorrow I will go running.

My neck aches so much that I couldnt sleep last night, Im trying to stand up really straight but its hard to see were Im putting my feet, how do other people stop themselves from falling over if they never watch their feet?

Will put some photos up when I get round to it.
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Postby mabli » Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:11 pm

Well I did my 40 min workout and a 3 mile run (ish). I run but when I cant breath anymore I walk fast and then run again, I need to do this less and less as Im concentrating on running rather than running fast. Im pleased that my 11 year old didnt come with me today, its a bit demotivating having someone storming ahead, she wants to run to the next town and back which would be a 13 mile round journey, not quite ready for that yet. Actually Im really enjoying the running though, its great next to the sea, really removes stress not that I have any. I think my body is really appreciating the extra exercise, Im really good at lying to myself so maybe its just a placebo :) but I feel loads bouncier. When I went walking yesterday it felt like different or more super psyched muscles were getting me up the hills. When I slid over in the mud a couple of times I felt like my workouts made me a bit stretchier so I didn’t injur myself. I even think my tummy has more definition, hooray for self deception.

Im going to aim to do a half marathon in late summer (11 year old wants to do the junior races too), I need more than one challenge otherwise I’ll feel really deflated after I finish walk. Also the weather can be so bad sometimes that apparently loads of folk dont get to complete 15 peaks when they intend to.

Yay Im really chuffed with the way I feel, its all down to vf, dont think Id have been inspired to start running and doing daily workout if it wasn’t for this forum. :D :D :D :D
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Postby mabli » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:40 pm

Just did my 40 min workout today, I was all set to go running (and really looking forward to it) but there was a really mad hail storm and I thought "sod that". I didnt have time to go later so thats a but rubbish. Ill try and go after work tomoz, Im really self conscious though so dont like folk watching me run (which is daft) so not sure if Im good enough to run along the prom with all the oober cool runners.
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Postby mabli » Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:51 pm

Started my new job...yay! I enjoyed it, so panic over. Quite a big company and folk go running, walking etc so should be good for me.

Today I just did my 40 min workout, Im tooooo cold to do any running, Ive been freezing all day.
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Postby Gelert » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:47 pm

mabli wrote:Started my new job...yay! I enjoyed it, so panic over. Quite a big company and folk go running, walking etc so should be good for me.


Great to hear that! It can make such a difference to be around people who are also into their phys.
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Postby mabli » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:12 pm

Gelert wrote:Great to hear that! It can make such a difference to be around people who are also into their phys.


Thank you! Actually it turns out that they're not quite as active as they made out, not to worry.

Today I just did my workout again, pretty rubbish but Im so tired, its cold and dark outside when I get in so Im going to give myself a break and settle in to this job for this week if I can hack it.

Its Pinkle's birthday today, my going back to work is the worst birthday ever for Pink.
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Postby mabli » Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:01 pm

Wohoo Ive managed to get through another day sat next to a bloody computer screen when I should be walking up a bloody hill or mountain...

Today I did my workout, no time for running, no time for walking up mountains & Im soooo tired and my head hurts and I want to stay at hoooooome and do fun things not go to work! :(
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Postby mabli » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:37 pm

40 min workout. Will do running nx week too and loads of running and walking this weekend. Need to buy a long skipping rope so I can skip a bit easier, the one Ive got is for a kid and Im relativly tall.

Cant wait for the weekend, nearly there! :) :) :) :)
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Postby mabli » Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:39 pm

Today is one of those days when Im just soooo very happy to be alive. I got up mega early (well 5.30) so I could sit in bed eating my porridge and reading my book (19th century clap trap). Did my workout, then had loads of chores to do but managed to get to the cycle path by 9.30. The tide was going out, and the oyster catchers were squabbling noisily, the sound of the waves just broke through the birds’ chatter. The puddles were frozen and it was 5 degrees but the sun was shining and felt warm on my face. Pink and I ran (checked on mapometer and its 3.10 miles or 4.99 km with total ascent of just 131m), it felt great to be out. My legs were a bit jellified, had to stop 4 times, but less than 2 mins each time. Then we had a bit of a strole on the beach but it got too cold so we left.

Its wonderful to live near a beach, its not the most picturesque one but we often have the whole place to ourselves. In the summer when we come down in our swimming cossies and find someone else here we feel put out and walk about half a mile to a different stretch. One time I found an octopus in the rock pools, it was climbing between them and heading away from the sea and I was worried a group of lads I could see might catch it. I carried it (they are such incredible creatures, kept looking right into my eyes, felt like there was a very intelligent alien life form in my arms) It sucked at my arms and wriggled but Im sure it knew it was safe and I managed to get it into the sea where it swam incredibly fast, hopefully away to safety. My daughter and I watched it go, then realised that it in the panic we hadn’t taken a photo! Later we discovered that they can give you a nasty bite so maybe I was lucky. There are loads of anemones, star fish and great big craps here, but I’ve only seen one octopus.

Tomorrow Ive got hours of walking in the Carneddau planned and the weather is supposed to fine... yay! Yes, today really is one of those days when Im very glad to be alive and living here. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Postby mabli » Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:58 pm

And another thing!

I know folk who have done the 3000s in 24 hours and I was talking to one of them today for advice. Actually I tell most folk about it, my new colleagues all know (80 folk work in my building). Anyway, this guy is an outdoor pursuits trainer type and he said I was totally on track but should try to get used to walking in the dark too. He said its just a mind game of endurance. He was a bit worried that as a vegan I wouldnt be getting enough calories but I explained about that. and he said I MUST take a bivvy bag no matter what, as the one of folk he went with hyperglycemed and just fell asleep as she walked so that they had to get her wrapped up warm until she could be rescued.
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Postby Gelert » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:13 pm

Night nav is a different ballgame indeed.

A lot of it is getting used to walking in the dark over rough ground (using a white light all the time is counterproductive as it creates shadows, kills your night vision and people get a bit worried when they see lights on the hill late at night) and having really good navigational skills.

On a clear night, you'd be able to use everything from celestial navigation through to random streetlamps as an aid to keeping on track, but sod's law states that it will be on a night with thick fog and no moon and so you'd be limited to the mainstays of micronavigation - things like walking on bearings, pacing, routecards, handrailing, off-pointing and all of this stuff that most of the day-walking community are kind of unfamiliar with, and when tired, hypoglycaemic, dehydrated and wet at last light call the MR team out as a result of being "lost" out of lack of confidence in their skills.

As for head-torches, if you've got the dosh, I'd recommend a Silva L1 for main use as it has really long battery life and a good beam, but I have some reservations about its watertightness (mine failed halfway through a stretcher evacuation at 0230h in drizzle!) so a backup is a good idea.

I never understand why people just say "spare batteries" when your torch with 300h battery life can fail for so many other reasons, leaving you fumbling around for AAs in the dark which may not fix it, so I prefer a wee tiny little Petzl E+Lite which weighs a few grams and gives a good enough beam (mine survived the washing machine)

If you're really keen on your nav, a third torch, a small penlight (e.g. mini maglite/solitaire) with duct tape over much of the lens is worthwhile, so you can look at your map without killing your night vision and making relating the detail of the map to ground really difficult.

You can get torches with colour filters to prevent exposure to white light, which is worse for night vision. These are best left to the forces though as they have the disadvantage of making contours on OS maps (red light) or forestry blocks (green) or water features (blue light) much harder to see.

If you were doing this in a group, reflective panels on rucksacks is a good idea. Nite-Ize flog a dayglo/fluorescent panel with an LED in it for about £15 which you could hitch on your rucksack. It reduces the chance of getting seperated, and if you were in bad vis or featureless terrain, you could put your partner out in front and use him/her to take a bearing off and reduce "tracking" off-course.

A couple of glowsticks make a handy addition to your emergency bag too. Some of them come with a length of string which you can tie the stick to and spin around. This makes them useful to attract the attention of someone at great distance in emergency, and looks spectacular through night vision goggles.

I MUST take a bivvy bag no matter what,


A lot of people doing this start out after an overnight bivvy just beneath the summit of Snowdon, don't they?

Which means you'd have a bivvy bag and sleeping bag anyway. One of those orange bags of doom is a desperately uncomfortable way to spend a night, so if you couldn't take a bivvy bag/sleeping bag combo, one of those shiny silver blizzard bags would be a good prospect. I've trialled both as treatments for hypothermia and find them a second compared to a good sleeping bag, but they come vacuum packed and weigh very little.

There's a very good case for having the ability to bivvy up on any hill trip anyway.

as the one of folk he went with hyperglycemed and just fell asleep as she walked so that they had to get her wrapped up warm until she could be rescued.


Hypoglycaemia (low blood sugar) is more likely than hyper, which is specific to diabetics. Hypo can occur in anyone who is tabbing along in the hills without maintaining a good, steady input of fuel.

The likely outcome of the above is MR medic pitches up, rubs something called hypo-stop (a glucose gel that diabetics use, or perhaps a glucose drip if the casualty was deeply unresponsive) on the casualty's gums, casualty starts responding, gets more hypostop and starts getting with the programme. Perhaps the rest of group gets a gentle lecture.

If it was hypo, the whole situation could have been prevented by recognizing the signs before the poor person passed out (usually a lack of energy, confusion, aggression, inability to square away their admin - a lot like hypothermia really, and both conditions go hand in hand in the hills) and giving sugary food or drink.

Better still, a top tip is to be frequently snacking while walking, or at least the first sign of tiredness or difficulty navigating. Guys on selection for special forces often have an ammunition pouch full of jelly babies which they graze from as needed. The idea is transferrable to the vegan hillwalker. You can get vegan jelly babies and sweets, or chocolate cut up into bite-size squares and put a pouch full on the hipbelt of your rucksack or in a ziplock bag in your pocket.

I had some experience with this a couple of years back. I was out on the hill with an Army officer with the mentality of "I'm harder than this hill", bless her. She didn't admin her layers properly, and had a huge packed lunch rather than frequent nibbles. So after a couple of hours she felt really cold and grumpy, early stages of hypothermia were setting in while the rest of the group enjoyed the no-vis views.

Once we spotted this we put my warm layer and a mate's duvet jacket on her and filled her face with jelly babies. Problem solved - got her up and moving in a few minutes, and kept her moving and fed for the rest of the day until we got to the pub.
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Postby mabli » Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:06 pm

Well you've just totally put me off trying to walk in the dark, there's no way I can navigate and definitely not on my own. Actually I hadnt even considered this. And whilst I may go round telling everyone Im a total atheist I reckon I might start getting the jitters near some of those standing stones at night.

The guy I was talking to is in the forces and his job is to train forces folk in the hills round here. He's going to lend me head torches and stuff. He says I need to pack light but stay safe. He was really positive, Im so glad he didnt say "shit, there's no way you can make it" which would have made me feel crap.

The walk starts at the bottom of Snowdon which adds to the distance and will make the 24 hours harder to achieve. Everyone winces when I tell them this, not sure why its been decided.

Anyway seeing as your Welsh, what about that bloody rugby match, Im so upset its spoiled a lovely day.
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Postby mabli » Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:48 pm

Hey Gelert, Ive thought about the night time walking and I think what he meant was that I need to get used to just being out in the dark and being able to confidently put one foot in front of the other. I guess I can do this somewhere that I know really well that has a clear path. Is it so very different from being in a very, very thick cloud?

I think Ill have a go somewhere that I know. I find it really difficult to walk without looking at the floor so walking for upteen miles in the dark is going to be a chalenge, especially if Im knackered.
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Postby mabli » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:08 pm

OK, so I had hoped to walk from Rowen to Carnedd Llewelyn which is a really stunning walk but in the end I only had an afternoon so instead I did my normal walk which is roughly 11 miles and 3245 ft of ascent. The views kept being eaten by mist and then would roll out again, it didnt take very long maybe 3 and a bit hours but it is so amazing. I just feel so happy when I go walking, Im so very lucky to have discovered what makes me happy and to have access to it, I just cant believe how lucky I am.

So my camera seems to have died so I had to take photies with my phone which is crap, such a pity because it was a truly magnificent day. I felt even smugger than normal as I had made a big vegan lasagne ready to pop in the oven when I got back so I knew there was heaven on a fork waiting for me at home. I also made Helmut’s vegan self saucing chocolate cake and we all loved it. Another brilliant day!


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Pink modeling a standing stone and in the other photies, the visibility was pretty poor most of the time until we got away from the clouds

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Cloud hugging the hills, we had to walk through this and up the hill. To the right you can see the reservoir and lower path that we walk back on

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The top Yay! :D :) :D

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Cloud rolling over and in the corner you can see a bit of Anglesey

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The mountains where we should have gone, these hills just call me on and on and on one after another... but not today :(

Last summer and autumn I would do the Carnedd Llewelyn walk from Rowen on a Saturday and then walk up Snowdon on the Sunday, really lovely. I know I could do loads of different walks but I seem to just get about six that I do again and again. Each time I go I see something different, one time I saw a tiny green lizard, soon I will hear the cuckoos, so it always wonderful no matter how many times I do the same walk. :) :)
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