JP wrote:Andrewc wrote:but a lot of them have do have their diets straight and know what they're eating. So with that being said I'm not sure what kind of lifters you're basing this assumption off.
i think thats not the issue. Like spug said in his EPIC post, athletes have a "solid" diet, of varied balanced diet - but there is a qualititive difference to the obsessive attitude to the nutritional minutae that bodybuilding magazines advicate (for commercial reasons).
But in general, people in heavier weight classes, or people with huge calorie demands (like runners, long distance cyclists, swimmers) cover all that detail info by the sheer volume of food they eat.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mt/anabolichalo.html OMG IT BREAKS STEEL WEIGHTS! WITH IMPOSSIBLE TEMPERATURE!! ... They don't have to hide that they lie, they just do it, how the fuck do you lower the temperature into the impossible? =PAndrewc wrote:but you and Spug are right on the money regarding what muscle magazines will publish as being the "optimal" diet for an athlete when money is their motivator.
Mr. Cleetus wrote:There are always improvements to be made.
Dave Noisy wrote:If i understand the process, the goal is to replace lost muscle glycogen ASAP, which gives the muscle the energy to repair itself.
Regarding that, other studie I saw:aliquis wrote:http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mt/leukichardcore.html 106% more GH? That's crap, I think GABA does like 400%, don't know what regular arginine do, not to mention actually working out or going to sleep =P
fredrikw wrote:There are quite recent studies that suggests that this immediate replacement of muscle glycogen, at least for endurance athletes, is only necessary when training multiple times per day. If the next training session is not until the following day the total amount of carbs throughout the whole day is the significant factor, not the ASAP-carbs. Quite contrary to what used to be the "truth" about recovery carbs.
But now I'm perhaps moving away from the topic at hand here
o74 wrote:When it comes to research I think it would be wise to ask what we don't know instead of just forming decisions on what might be just 5% of the on the whole subject.
at makes you assume that anyone responding to threads on a vegan fitness forum wouldn't also be a vegan athlete like yourself? I train 6 days a week, martial arts, weight lifting, running, hiking, biking, whatever I can fit in. I only consume protein shakes when I don't have enough time to make a proper meal. Proper meals are always better (again, with a variety of foods).
And like I said, the original author of the book that made protein combining popular has since published the following retraction:
Will_220, I dare say there are a fair few on here who are fitter and more muscular than you, and who train harder. And they probably aren't tearing themselves apart thinking about amino acid profiles.
Of course you should get something down as soon as possible after training, but all the "3 hour nutritional window of opportunity" bullcrap is most likely false,
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