JP wrote:Hi mate.
I would actually recommend a totally different approach. Maybe just including totally vegan meals every now and again. Or replacing dairy products with soya milk etc. This way you would "learn" to build vegan meals and habits from now on already while you are still living under your parents rules.
Just a thought, but personally i wouldnt start thinking in terms of lesser evils
and yes, chocolate soya milk is fantastic post workout stuff
JP wrote:nah man, soya is solid for muscle and strength building. Nothing wrong with it - the internet warriors who talk about the phyto-oestrogens in soya just talk like that because they repeat some misleading articles which seem not to go away. At the same time they do not mention the much stronger mammal oestrogens in dairy, so the whole argument is a bit silly.
Danzigs lack of strength was because he lacks strength there is no dietary trickery to solve that, its all down to training - dietary things can only provide the adequate basics.
Andrewc wrote:I've never heard if this vitamin agression but I know through veganism I'm getting plenty of vitamin compassion. But in all seriousness I've never heard of such an argument, but I've been told many times that I'm an "angry" person if that means anything to you.
As JP suggested opt for more 100% vegan meals to help you learn to build a solid eating plan as opposed to meeting your parents half way on your ethics.
Ps; Out of curiosity how old are you?
Andrewc wrote:I'm under the impression that you've resigned yourself to the belief that you won't reach your full potential without some animal products, but you've also come to a vegan fitness forum for vegan nutritional advice to compliment your training which is awesome. There's no shortage of guys and girls on here training for MMA, boxing and other martial arts who can give you advice on what they eat and how they train for optimal results.
I live with user Patvirt and one thing that I often hear him say to people is that just because you're not vegan it doesn't mean that you can't reap the benefits of eating healthy vegan food and using vegan products - This includes soy, pea, hemp and rice protein isolates.
I can understand the trouble you're experiencing with your parents, particularly your dad regarding your desire to switch to veganism, myself and probably 99% of the users of this forum have been in the same position, and I for one still have this trouble. No matter how strong, fast, succesful or ripped you become on a vegan diet, you will constantly be told you could achieve more if you ate meat. The best answer you can give them is to suck it up, go vegan and prove everyone wrong.
spike wrote:Halalpig, welcome to the forum. What was it that made you decide you want to go vegan?
Re the vitamins, B12 is proably the only one you need to supplement on a varied vegan diet. You don't even need to take it each day, once a week will do, it's no hassle.
BTW, did you post here when you tried out eating vegan a few months back?
halalpig wrote:im 16 and i dont mean anger. i mean kinda like explosive drive.
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