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Postby emm7 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:28 pm

JohnBarleycorn wrote:
emm7 wrote:but what about all the people at the riding club, they knew she was planning attempted murder?


They were scared of her.

Some have now come forward and given statements.


am very pleased they have come forward about what she said!
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Postby moggy » Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:30 am

My internet has been down for days so I've only just seen this- its dreadful. I wish you the best for getting her nailed for it.
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Postby ultra_whippet » Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:34 am

JohnBarleycorn wrote:The police are a disgrace. As I said, I now have grounds to prosecute certain police officers, a former chief constable and now HM Inspector of Constabulary has advised me on this. She thinks the stalker has contacts within the police who protect her.

Yep, you can guarantee that if a sab started threatening a hunt member they would be carted off down to the cells in no time :?

Really sorry to hear about this horrendous experience mate, I really hope that your solicitors can get this bitch put away for a long, long time.....
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Postby Hiking Fox » Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:39 am

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Crash wrote:I'm sorry this is happening to you JBC. :( :evil: Surely there are slander laws, not to mention attempted murder laws in place - why haven't the police done anything? :shock:


The police are a disgrace. As I said, I now have grounds to prosecute certain police officers, a former chief constable and now HM Inspector of Constabulary has advised me on this. She thinks the stalker has contacts within the police who protect her.


Wealthy people like heads of police, heads of businesses, court judges etc. socialise together on the golf course, at the hunt etc. They back each other up. Ones who went to private schools will always back each other up. It's like a code of honour. Ones who are members of the Masons have taken a solemn oath to back each other up.

That's how British society works. I'm not being cynical. Why do you think rich people always get planning permission for things?
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Postby Johnboy74 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:49 am

ultra_whippet wrote:Yep, you can guarantee that if a sab started threatening a hunt member they would be carted off down to the cells in no time :?


Very very true!
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Re: Intimidation, hatred and death threats

Postby J » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:23 am

JohnBarleycorn wrote:Hi Everyone.

I have been a little quiet on the forum in recent weeks.....

Some of you may know, but most won't, about the three year campaign of hatred, intimidation, death threats and lies that has been waged against me.

The stalker, a middle aged women from Ross-on-Wye near Hereford, has made thousands of death threats, made one attempt to kill me, and has sworn to destroy me.

She seems untouchable by the police, and has obviously studied stalking tactics. She has destroyed other before me.

She infiltrates any group I may be connected with, and spreads lies and hate about me. She has tried to infiltrate my family and friends with very limited success, but she never gives up.

I know know she is trying to infiltrate any forums I am connected with. This means VF may be a target.

She uses false names and false identities. She also uses others to do her dirty work. For instance, she will infiltrate a group, and gain their confidence. Then she will spread evil lies, and get everyone wound up. Then watch and guide from the background as the group turns against me, and spreads those same lies about me.

Isolation is her main tactic. Take away friends, family, work etc, so that the victim feels alone.

I could write 10000 words on what she has done.

Many people now believe I am a dangerous child abuser, a criminal, a fake and fraud, a child murderer etc etc.

My solicitors are ready to strike. There is so much more I would like to say, but can't.

She is a keen fox hunter and animal abuser. Mmber of the local hunt. Dog breeder.

This is a warning that she may come after me on VF, and is almost certainly already reading the forum.

If I vanish, you'll know whats happened.

Er, wow. Maybe you should just talk to her and try to right whatever wrong she thinks (rightly or wrongly) you've done to her?

What in the world happened for this person to become so interested in you in the first place?

I don't think demonizing her for not being vegan is really relevant BTW.
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Postby SandGroper » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:34 am

I'll send some good vibes your way, man. Remember to use the bike when things are getting you down.
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Postby Gelert » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:44 am

Christ man, that's some heavy shit.

I'd hope if she does make an appearance here that the forum rules would amply cover her instant removal. That said, I have seen something similar elsewhere, where an individual rejoined a particular forum >300 times to continue harrassing a particular individual, as well as disrupt several charities linked to that board.

I would think talking to her in an attempt to right what wrongs may have happened could be extremely counterproductive. You've already engaged the services of solicitors, that's what they are paid very well to do, act on your behalf, without giving any opportunity whatsoever for her to turn things back at you.

Equally, anything from any other posters here intimating the next VF meetup being outside her house on a dark night can be viewed very dimly, either in the courts or merely by the local constabulary. So best be very conservative there - even if it is plainly a joke to us lot!

While I can't see that you've demonized her for not being vegan, you have made quite a few statements which could serve to bring unwanted attention your way and erode the border between VF and real life a bit, after all this is just a quick google search away (e.g. eighth hit on searching for "Ross Herefordshire vegan cyclist" is this thread), so you might want to consider that.

Changing the search slightly also brings up the real name of at least one (other) poster on here.

So, without being too paranoid, you might want to bear such things in mind.


Take care anyway!
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Postby JohnBarleycorn » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:31 am

Gelert wrote:Christ man, that's some heavy shit.

I'd hope if she does make an appearance here that the forum rules would amply cover her instant removal. That said, I have seen something similar elsewhere, where an individual rejoined a particular forum >300 times to continue harrassing a particular individual, as well as disrupt several charities linked to that board.

I would think talking to her in an attempt to right what wrongs may have happened could be extremely counterproductive. You've already engaged the services of solicitors, that's what they are paid very well to do, act on your behalf, without giving any opportunity whatsoever for her to turn things back at you.

Equally, anything from any other posters here intimating the next VF meetup being outside her house on a dark night can be viewed very dimly, either in the courts or merely by the local constabulary. So best be very conservative there - even if it is plainly a joke to us lot!

While I can't see that you've demonized her for not being vegan, you have made quite a few statements which could serve to bring unwanted attention your way and erode the border between VF and real life a bit, after all this is just a quick google search away (e.g. eighth hit on searching for "Ross Herefordshire vegan cyclist" is this thread), so you might want to consider that.

Changing the search slightly also brings up the real name of at least one (other) poster on here.

So, without being too paranoid, you might want to bear such things in mind.


Take care anyway!


Yup....thats scary !

I don't think I made any reference to her being vegan or otherwise ! Certainly haven't demonised her for not being vegan. I assume she is a meat eater, but I couldn't swear it.

She uses the net all the time, so I imagine she is already aware of VF and this thread. But as I said, I won't name her, or give any details about her, as I have to remain above all that sort of thing. So I have made no threats, not implied any threats, and not suggested anything. Even after three years, I have not done anything, other than use legal routes.

But doubtless a sick mind will find some sort of problem with what I have said.

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Postby emm7 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:42 am

Hiking Fox wrote:
JohnBarleycorn wrote:
Crash wrote:I'm sorry this is happening to you JBC. :( :evil: Surely there are slander laws, not to mention attempted murder laws in place - why haven't the police done anything? :shock:


The police are a disgrace. As I said, I now have grounds to prosecute certain police officers, a former chief constable and now HM Inspector of Constabulary has advised me on this. She thinks the stalker has contacts within the police who protect her.


Wealthy people like heads of police, heads of businesses, court judges etc. socialise together on the golf course, at the hunt etc. They back each other up. Ones who went to private schools will always back each other up. It's like a code of honour. Ones who are members of the Masons have taken a solemn oath to back each other up.

That's how British society works. I'm not being cynical. Why do you think rich people always get planning permission for things?


yes I was curious to know whether she was in the Masons because it certainly sounds that way.

yes types who "stalk" often possess one of the more paranoid violent and disturbed personality types that have a hair-trigger tendency to lose touch with reality (it is called borderline personality disorder) note that 75% of those with this personality type are women. It is classified as a kind of mental illness I believe. There are more of these people out there than you may think :shock:

http://www.psychiatrymmc.com/these-boot ... -stalkers/
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Postby seasiren » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:47 am

I was wondering where you ran off too!

This is one heck of a trial on you. :shock: Sending positive energy your way.

People like her live every day in their own kind of hell.... they get theirs in the end.
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Postby emm7 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:59 am

seasiren wrote:People like her live every day in their own kind of hell.... they get theirs in the end.


CORRECT they are intensely unhappy and insecure and empty people which is why they do it. Apparently a large proportion of them were abused as children, although some of them were not. I believe there is a Genetic component to it too.

Sounds like they are twice as likely to stalk a man rather than another woman.

Typically, the perpetrators were Caucasian, heterosexual, single women with a mean age of 35 (ranging from 18–58 years old). Often, these women did not have children. They appeared to be educated, with a large majority having graduated from high school and a solid minority having achieved a college or graduate degree. Their intelligence may have allowed them to be more successful in pursuing their victims.

Reports of substance abuse were not common, but about one-third of women used substances while stalking. Available data suggested the presence of Axis I and II disorders. Twenty percent of those with Axis I disorders were diagnosed with delusional disorder. The most common Axis II diagnosis was borderline personality disorder (n=10 of 22). Antisocial personality disorder was not diagnosed in any of the women. Despite incomplete data, there appeared to be a high rate of sexual (n=18 of 40) and physical (n=12 of 40) abuse in the personal histories of the female stalkers, which may have predisposed these women to the development of borderline personality characteristics or posttraumatic stress disorder.

A great majority of the victims of female stalkers were known to them, either as acquaintances, former lovers, or family members. However, one-fifth of the victims were completely unknown to their stalkers. Frequent reasons for stalking included anger, obsession, feelings of abandonment, loneliness, and dependency. Usual stalking behaviors included telephone calls and messages, giving letters and gifts, driving by the victim’s location, trespassing, and following the victim. More than half of the women threatened their victims, and a quarter were physically violent, with three victims losing their lives to their stalkers. Most episodes of violence, however, did not involve the use of a weapon and did not result in injuries. Violence was more likely if the stalker and the victim had been previously sexually intimate. In more than half of the cases, the behavior increased in frequency and intensity. The victims were usually Caucasian, heterosexual males with a mean age of 41 (ranging from 16–68 years). Female victims were targeted one third of the time. The perpetrators pursued their victims for an average of 22 months.
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Postby Hiking Fox » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:18 pm

Gelert wrote:Changing the search slightly also brings up the real name of at least one (other) poster on here.

So, without being too paranoid, you might want to bear such things in mind.


Sadly all too true.

I avoid posting photos that show my face on here, and PM anyone who knows me in 'real life' who accidentally uses my real name in a thread, due to the actions of an animal rights activist who once harassed me and some other people for the course of several months a few years back, and kept contacting my boss with lies about me in an attempt to get me sacked from the job I had at the time.

There's some very spiteful people out there who have a lot of time on their hands, and unfortunately, some of them are vegan :cry:
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Postby emm7 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:23 pm

fox this is awful :shock: am sorry to hear that! thank god they eventually stopped doing this!
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And some guy's trying to sell me a watch"
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Postby Hiking Fox » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:31 pm

emm7 wrote:fox this is awful :shock: am sorry to hear that! thank god they eventually stopped doing this!


They lost their nerve when my boss told them to stop wasting his time, and their underage boyfriend dumped them and went round apologising to everybody for not seeing through them, but that's all I'll say, cos it was years ago and the person might have sorted themself out and turned nice, for all I know.

Barleycorn's stalker is in a different league if she has actually tried to run him over. That's just sickening, and it makes you wonder whether she is all out to get other ethically-motivated people in the area?
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