Low in carbohydrate AND high in protein?

[lobsteriffic]

Cliff Builder Bars are vegan, right? Maybe I can pick up a box of those. I saw a box at the store the other day for 18 dollars (US currency, 12 bars) so that would last me two weeks and I could replace my almonds/cashews with a lower fat/higher protein choice (however, the carb intake would increase slightly).\

Heck yes Builder bars are vegan. They are ridiculously delicious too!

I adore those things...the peanutbutter one is sublime!

[Edison Carasio]

Maybe when I'm home this weekend I will pick up a box. Last night I bougth some ove roasted (not in oil) almonds seasoned with vanilla bean. They are sublime. Low saturated fat (1g, 14g total fat though), 160 calories for a handful, 7g carbs (4 from fiber) and 7 grams of protein.

[ghost]

yeah f*ck quorn, I agree. I just saw once a product from quorn that only said "MAY contain Milk, and eggs because the product is processed in a facility which also processes milk and eggs"

but now they all have egg?

I once ate the grounds from Quorn long time ago and it gave me a stomach ache. usually eggs dont give me a stomach ache but I guess the battery caged eggs do.....

[emm7]

don't eat Quorn, I used to work with a guy who worked for the company that make it, it is the result of an accident in a Lab, a serendipity a bit like the discovery of penicillin but not as fortunate. It's a man made fungus. It's not easy on the digestion because it's artificial!

[Asleep on a sunbeam]

don't eat Quorn, I used to work with a guy who worked for the company that make it, it is the result of an accident in a Lab, a serendipity a bit like the discovery of penicillin but not as fortunate. It's a man made fungus. It's not easy on the digestion because it's artificial!

I new someone (nearly went out with them, glad I didn't) who had an nucle high up in quorn ranks...

...she was a "vegetarian" who ate geletain and would've been the perfect quorn spokesman.

It's probably not a good reason, but before turning vegan, i never really looked at quorn the same way.

[gauze]

quorn stinks. 12g protein per 100g for a meat replacement? GTFO.

[emm7]

quorn isn't vegan and never has been. It has always been bound together with eggs.

[Fallen_Horse]

Ok, I'm gonna make the first post in the last 10000 posts that doesn't mention quorn.


...


DAMNIT!

[vegan_transboy]

some quorn doesn't have eggs. only the ground meat has egg whites.

All quorn has egg in it., the protien is made of has egg in it.

[Cade]

Edison,

A Harvard study showed that beef, if you can believe this, had an undesirable insulin response just like any bad carbohydrate. What I'm trying to say is more protein over carbs may not necessarily slim you down. See if your thyroid is in working order as well as your adrenals. If these guys are malfunctioning, you're going to hit a point where weight will not come off no matter what you do. If your tests show you're in good health, then address your diet.

I find this route much more efficient in the long run.

[dropSoul]

I'm on the precise diet that you want, it's completely vegan and is low carb and high protein, and it's customized too. No faux meats if you don't want. It rocks! I purchased it and promised not to share it or post it, plus I want my vegan trainer to be in business for a loooooooooong time, need to support our vegan family, but it's worth every red cent to join veganpersonaltraining.com, yeah it's a plug but I'm not kidding about it. She knows what she's talking about. If you treat her like the boss, don't think, just do, you will have the ripped physique you want.

[Gelert]

Quorn is not a man-made fungus. It's actually made from a soil mould, Fusarium venenatum, closely related to the wheat pathogen Fusarium graminearum It has not been genetically modified at all.

It gets grown in huge fermentors, and then harvested and the hyphae are treated to remove RNA (too much causes gout). It's then bound together with chicken egg albumen, textured and sold.

The company involved have been quite keen to improve the strain because it has a critical problem. Normally it grows in long strings called hyphae, which improves its texture, binding and yield. But after so many generations, the evolutionary selective pressure on shorter strings which give crap texture but grow better in a stirred tank fermentor is too strong. This has been one of the key reasons why A) it never took off as they hoped and B) it needs the egg albumen as a binding agent or it will all fall apart.

Their market is not even so much vegetarian as those wishing to reduce meat intake. Likewise GMO is off the cards because the target demographic is strongly against GMO.

If you wanted to look at a vegan broad equivalent, Quinova, which is essentially Rhizopus grown on quinoa, well how many people have heard of it? It was developed by my PhD supervisor's PhD supervisor and my supervisor was one of the guinea pigs. It's not been a commercial success.[/i]

[emm7]

damn shame Quinova hasn't taken off, I've bought it quite a few times before and it's very tasty

The Quinova pieces taste excellent in a North African style curry or in sweet and sour sauce.

I prefer it to ordinary quinoa to be honest. Ordinary quinoa is a bit mushy!