Papaya wrote:emm7 wrote:OK have just been reading Tennessee Williams for the first time and it is compelling,
Williams was brilliant, really simple language, great character interactions. Because he was homosexual in that culture he was almost asexual and so there was a real outsiders view on marriages and men and women. Not a lot of good character traits in people all round - Stan Kowalski's hardly a good male role model. He wrote a novel but it wasn't good at all, it was the same themes as the plays but just didn't work.
I went to see Streetcar many years ago on a hot summers evening and I think the theatre stopped all ventilation to add to the humid tension, but someone actually passed out. I should look out my old texts of these.
oh! didn't realise he was gay!!!!! I am even more impressed now. Talk about extremely talented powers of empathy and observation. Yes maybe it is an example of "the outsider sees most of the game".
Yes Kowalski isn't a role model for sure!!!!!! Each of the characters are a mixture of good and bad.
Stella --- good quality, she is honest (very bad liar), practical, generous and not a snobbish bone in her body. Bad quality, she is an addict (hooked on Stan because of his "extra curricular abilities"

) and a victim and too stoical / apathetic.
Blanche -- good quality, she has got a damn good imagination and is clearly cultured and intelligent and wants to protect her sister. Bad quality, she is a fantasist, manipulative, a taker rather than a giver, and doesn't want to face harsh reality. Plus she is addicted to drink.
Stan -- good quality, he says it how he sees it and confronts people if they are being dishonest, also he works hard and provides for Stella and does I believe love her, and he is very loyal to his friends. Bad quality, he is violent and aggressive and crass and his violence towards Stella and Blanche is awful, also I wonder whether he is a gambling addict (he always seems to be holding poker parties).
Interesting they are all very damaged people and all go on to damage others.
Stella will damage unborn baby (by staying with Stan because of her addiction to him although he is violent) and will damage Blanche by having her sectioned for insanity even though Blanche is not lying about what Stan did to her. Blanche damages the men she leads on and seduces in order to get affection and/or money (including a 17 year old lad

), Stan damages Stella and Blanche with his violence.
Yes Papaya please do read it again and let me know what you think!