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Postby Gelert » Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:51 pm

Think of it as a balletic dance of brotherly love given corporeal form by two young men aspiring to become men apart, to be, in the words of Montgomery, each man an emperor.

Or, back on planet earth, milling is a crowded minute in which you have to demonstrate controlled physical aggression. You get paired off with someone of similar size and have to punch them senseless while they try to punch you senseless. It is similar to boxing, but without any of the technical flair or need for talent. In fact, points are deducted for dodging, blocking or any kind of skill. Points are awarded for determination, persistence, and utter violence of action. In recent years, gloves and head protection has become compulsory for health and safety reasons.

Milling is one of the eight tests in P Company which recruits have to pass to join Para Reg. Some other units have included it in their selection process at times as well, but doubts about the kind of mentality it encourages in candidates for those units have been expressed.

If I haven't painted a suitable word picture, please see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpAHByFg ... re=related

Now, I wonder if this is an option for VF week.
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Postby Gelert » Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:57 pm

You "beat" me to it.

[quote="The Duke"]beasted


A dirty word, a very dirty word these days in official circles. Dirtier than "crevice" even.
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Postby Muay Jin » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:45 pm

What a retarded way to fight, but a certainly is a good way to find out who has more chin.
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Postby Gelert » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:46 pm

Indeed. Mind you, the other things the input into the maroon machine have to do to get to the wicker basket stage are as retarded, if not more.

I'd just about rather a minute of milling than the log race or a trip around the trainasium, but I'd probably not even make it as a "hat", and seeing as seven of their guys have been killed in the last month in Afghanistan, they have my full respect, even if they are as odd as a concrete version of what they put on their backs.
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Postby SpugFab » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:19 am

[quote="The Duke"]"P Company" is what baby Paras have to do before they are allowed to jump out of a wicker basket a thousand feet above the ground.

I dodged P company by about 2 weeks thanks to an ankle injury :lol:

At the time this seemed like a bad thing, I forget why :?
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Postby tempehmomma » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:26 pm

[quote="Gelert"]Milling is one of the eight tests in P Company which recruits have to pass to join Para Reg. Some other units have included it in their selection process at times as well, but doubts about the kind of mentality it encourages in candidates for those units have been expressed.

If I haven't painted a suitable word picture, please see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpAHByFg ... re=related

Now, I wonder if this is an option for VF week.
I want to do Milling once a week. It looks like bad arse shite that would teach me how to take a hit. I asked a friend the other day if he wanted to try milling with me, however he declined because he thought he might get his ass kicked because he's out of shape. :lol:
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Postby Muay Jin » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:53 pm

We used to do that at school, but bodywork only no face punches, its not as bad then...
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Postby Gelert » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:00 pm

Hmm, from my youthfully inexperienced perspective, milling would not be as good for teaching you how to take a hit, but rather how to keep hitting, hitting, hitting, hitting, hitting, hitting, and stop. (Shortly followed by surprisingly finding the remains of someone's nose, quite possibly your own, on the floor)

Would Le Duc agree on that one?


[quote="spug_myers"]
I dodged P company by about 2 weeks thanks to an ankle injury :lol:


I was wondering when you were talking about your sergeant and the obsessive tick checks whether he happened to be from 3 Para Mortars or not. Given the two observations, I can see how the probability of that is now fairly high.

I imagine it must have been gutting at the time.
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Postby tempehmomma » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:26 pm

[quote="Muay Jin"]We used to do that at school, but bodywork only no face punches, its not as bad then...
It's not supposed to be a game of tag and most guys on the streets will go upstairs on you. I think learning how to take body shots is absolutely necessary as well.
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Postby Muay Jin » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:29 pm

Yeah this was just to test who was the most macho instead of actually fighting I guess...
Fightwise i'm a headhunter myself, I rarely go for bodyshots, unless you're talking low kicks.
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Postby Gelert » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:03 am

I'm a subclavian artery with a pointy thing kinda guy meself. Works in about 2.5 seconds on average, but the hunt for new training partners is second only to the black pudding industry in the demand for new blood, so to speak.
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Postby tempehmomma » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:12 am

[quote="Muay Jin"]Yeah this was just to test who was the most macho instead of actually fighting I guess...
Fightwise i'm a headhunter myself, I rarely go for bodyshots, unless you're talking low kicks.
Bodyshots hurt like hell! :shock:
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Re: Krav Maga & Zionism

Postby Spartacus » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:34 pm

[quote="misosoup"](...) but I think there's a connection drawn between vegan-anarchist-anti-zionist by alot of people, (...)

Really? By whom? And why?
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Postby :x: » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:07 pm

well this connection might be because some vegans are anarchist, or the other way round, and most anarchists do have this terrible anti-zionist ideas...

i do KM for a little mor than six months now. it's not really political, but of course sometimes the trainter talks about the techniques and why they were developed in israel, like disarming people in a bus or something. we also have israel flags on our shirts...and when avi nardia showed up for some lessons he also talked about idf-stuff, and said quite nasty things about suicide-bombers, but it's ok to say quite nasty things about extremely nasty people... 8)
and yesterday my trainer showed up in an idf-shirt, seems as if he had just gotten it new...

oh, "to turn up in a keffiyeh" is never a good idea... :P
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Postby october_lost » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:44 pm

[quote=":x:"]well this connection might be because some vegans are anarchist, or the other way round, and most anarchists do have this terrible anti-zionist ideas...

i do KM for a little mor than six months now. it's not really political, but of course sometimes the trainter talks about the techniques and why they were developed in israel, like disarming people in a bus or something. we also have israel flags on our shirts...and when avi nardia showed up for some lessons he also talked about idf-stuff, and said quite nasty things about suicide-bombers, but it's ok to say quite nasty things about extremely nasty people... 8)
and yesterday my trainer showed up in an idf-shirt, seems as if he had just gotten it new...

All of the above is pretty sickening and I wouldn't train anywhere if the above was part of routine.
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