Man On Bike. wrote:I'm not sure why anyone would want to keep eating animal products after they've decided to go vegan.
For me being vegan is not just about withdrawing my money from the animal industry, it's also about not putting animals or their products in my body.
Ambi wrote:I should clarify that I don't have any issue with the stance of not wanting to eat animal products whatever the circumstances, only people who don't accept that my approach to veganism is also valid.
My main problem with meat etc. is the disregard of sentient life for the sake of producing commodites. I don't have much against eating roadkill, and less against hunting for food than against farming.
To be honest, what you said about the norm that animals are food isn't anything that's occured to me or been put to me before, so I'll have to give it more thought.
MrsBrower wrote:People have been hunter gatherers for, well, a very long time. The way I see it today its just that we go about it all wrong. There are plenty of other animals in the kingdom that are omnivours/ carnivours, so i don't think that we can be so quick to say animals are not food. I would imagine that is more how we hunting, raise and kill livestock in our world today that makes it so horrible to eat animal products. Today, its possible to be vegan and healthy because we have much more available (how many vegan recipes are from other cultures?). However, to waste what has already been slaughtered, processed and purchased seems like it goes against any moral/ ethical argument about animal rights.
retromama wrote:And I hardly think it's appropriate to argue against veganism on a vegan board. It's like crashing a batmitzvah tossing rosary beads to all the young girls. It's unnecessary.
MrsBrower wrote:...Do you have the medical documentation for that? I would really be interested, in all honesty. And trust me, I do know the benefits of a vegan diet.
MrsBrower wrote:And no, history does not necessarily validate any moral or ethical practice. What I meant was that historically, many cultures have been omnivous back to before we were raising livestock and permenantly settling. There is evidence that at one point our bodies were better equipped for meat consumption. We were also not eating diseased, ill treated and antibiotic pumped animals.
MrsBrower wrote:I'm not arguing against be vegetarian or vegan- I am myself. All I'm saying is that you can't discredit other possibilities. There is no reason you can't look at things from another perspective. If a person is just going to be a high and mighty "I'm better than you because I'm Vegan and can't possibly understand why you could eat meat" then well, I think that is doing vegetarians and vegans a great disservice because instead of promoting open conversation, it turns non-veggies away from the conversation and breeds a certain assumption that we are going to confrontational about our beliefs and then the conversation can't go anywhere.
MrsBrower wrote:Case and point. Be open minded.
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