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Postby Enhydra Lutris » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:32 pm

[quote="VEGANPOTTER"]Copper leaches and I don't think anyone should have copper in their bodies. Its a major problem even for potters...using excessive copper in a glaze is dangerous and even illegal in some cases. Also this is just for food and drink temporarily sitting in a copper vessel...no something that will be in you for years...I don't think these should be made with copper...they should be made with stainless steel or for forming properties silver(which would make the implant cost 4-5 times more but the actual implant should be a small percentage of the cost anyhow)

The point of the copper IUDis that it leaches coppar ions which removes the ability to swim in sperms. You can also get IUDs with a hormone as the active substance (makes the mucus really thick).
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Postby line » Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:08 pm

I'm having a major dilemma about what type of contaception to use after birth, and if to use contaception at all, as I'm having a hard time deciding that my son should not have a younger brother or sister. Sadly I will not be allowed to adopt for years and years and years, as I'm not married + I'll probably be studying till spring 2014..

I have been considering copper IUD and I'm pretty sure it's not for me. It just seems a bit "wrong" and I'm afraid it will cause me a lot of pain during periods. I used to have the worst, most horrible pains every God Damn(!) month.
I have a package of Yasmine pills which I never got to start taking, as the period I was waiting for in order to start taking them never came... :?
While breast feeding one can not use any hormones. It may seem safe to have sex as long as there are no periods, yet there is no garantie that the normal period cycle doesn't start at any point between three or thirteen months after birth.. I may therefore have to get a Lady Comp in case I cannot resist to have sex with "dad" again.

BUT: I don't really trust any type of contraception, as my best friend a few years ago got pregnant while on the p-shot, and I got pregnant using a "regret pill" (what are they called in english?) this winter. Both methods are claimed to be safe/effective, and the shot is supposed to be 99,9% safe. Naturally I'm having a really hard time beliving that!
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Postby base_trix » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:06 pm

I've been with my guy for over five years and we still use condoms. Everything else seems like a lot of fuss.

Incidentally, does anyone know if semen is a source of B12? I suspect I'm being duped. :)
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Postby Dave Noisy » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:46 pm

[quote="base_trix"]I've been with my guy for over five years and we still use condoms. Everything else seems like a lot of fuss.

Incidentally, does anyone know if semen is a source of B12? I suspect I'm being duped. :)

hahaaha - it actually is, tho prolly not a great idea to rely on it..unless you're getting freaky with a lot of guys a lot of the time..hahaha
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Postby virago » Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:18 pm

This is an update on my IUD.
All going fab so far - my cycle went straight back to normal after being on the Pill for 5 years, I am now in phase with the moon as I was before which is quite nice.
The cramps aren't bad, stronger than I'm used to but not awful. I don't take painkillers for them but the less stoical may prefer to. Regular exercise helps. No cravings, no mad increase in appetite, no bloating...quite hormonal and oddly a few spots (haven't had spots since I was going through puberty :shock: ) but I think that's post-Pill hormonal fluctuations.
My period is now 7 days instead of 5, with spotting to begin and end and one insanely heavy day. I'm glad I've got a mooncup it makes my period so much easier. On my non-heavy days I keep it in for 8-12 hours, it's like not having a period :)
So, so far (and I don't see this changing) I would really reccommend the copper IUD. No hormones, no lactose, no fuss.
Oh, and get a mooncup/divacup/your country's equivalent, they're FAB!
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Postby moggy » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:33 am

Even when celibate (no single vegan blokes in the area), I was on the pill for health reasons.For me to be healthy enough to hold down a job, I dont have any alternative.
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Postby virago » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:05 am

[quote="moggy"]Even when celibate (no single vegan blokes in the area), I was on the pill for health reasons.For me to be healthy enough to hold down a job, I dont have any alternative.


I know another vegan in a similar position, she takes the Pill to control her hormones and have a normal life. I'm lucky in that my pre-Pill cycle was regular and untroublesome so I'm fine coming off it.
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Postby moggy » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:20 am

[quote="virago"][quote="moggy"]Even when celibate (no single vegan blokes in the area), I was on the pill for health reasons.For me to be healthy enough to hold down a job, I dont have any alternative.


I know another vegan in a similar position, she takes the Pill to control her hormones and have a normal life. I'm lucky in that my pre-Pill cycle was regular and untroublesome so I'm fine coming off it.


Yes, its shitty, but it is the only way to lead a normal life- my doctor used to joke that my PMS was so severe I could kill someone and not be held responsible. I also had horrendous problems with lack of coordination. My PMS could last for up to 5 or 6 weeks, ending only when I would 'flood' and beginning immediately again once I stopped flooding(usually after about 10 days). When I was getting too many days when my coordination meant I was not safe to drive, thats when the doctor put me on the pill. I used to hate the thought of being on the pill, but once I saw what a difference it made, I wish I'd done it years earlier. I've now been on it 15 years.
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Postby virago » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:04 pm

[quote="moggy"]
Yes, its shitty, but it is the only way to lead a normal life- my doctor used to joke that my PMS was so severe I could kill someone and not be held responsible. I also had horrendous problems with lack of coordination. My PMS could last for up to 5 or 6 weeks, ending only when I would 'flood' and beginning immediately again once I stopped flooding(usually after about 10 days). When I was getting too many days when my coordination meant I was not safe to drive, thats when the doctor put me on the pill. I used to hate the thought of being on the pill, but once I saw what a difference it made, I wish I'd done it years earlier. I've now been on it 15 years.


:( I'm sorry you have such trouble with your periods. It's not very fair how many women struggle with theirs :(
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Postby line » Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:12 pm

mm.. I'm really not looking forward to having them again. I used to struggle with moods connected to PMS, and during pregnancy I've been more in harmony with life than I ever was. Feeling "calm and satisfyed" is really very nice.
Hope the pill can help keep the PMS away when I get my periods back.
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Postby joyinc » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:53 pm

i didnt read through the whole thread, so pardon me if this has been posted, but www.tcoyf.com is all natural, and you dont have to worry about getting a pharmaceutical product that is considered vegan by its ingredients, yet has been tested on animals... that one is a big concern for me, as well as unnatural hormones, so the shot is a no no for me

as well there are vegan condoms you can buy
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Postby Hiking Fox » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:26 pm

Sterilisation costs around £400 and is one of the best things you can ever pay for, unless you are comfortable with the idea of having kids and think you might change your mind later (I won't!)
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Postby virago » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:03 pm

[quote="joyinc"]i didnt read through the whole thread, so pardon me if this has been posted, but www.tcoyf.com is all natural, and you dont have to worry about getting a pharmaceutical product that is considered vegan by its ingredients, yet has been tested on animals... that one is a big concern for me, as well as unnatural hormones, so the shot is a no no for me

as well there are vegan condoms you can buy


I know many women who have used this..and ended up pregnant :shock:
I'm sure if you are vigilant it's fine, but it means no sex during ovulation (which is when you're damn horny anyway) and I'd be too worried about a mistake. Condoms are OK, not safe enough for my personal piece of mind but this varies from person to person. I love my IUD because it's non-hormonal, no more little lactose pills and as effective as tubal ligation. It's about as vegan a contraceptive that I am going to use.
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Postby moggy » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:25 pm

[quote="Hiking Fox"]Sterilisation costs around £400 and is one of the best things you can ever pay for, unless you are comfortable with the idea of having kids and think you might change your mind later (I won't!)


If its just for contracaeption, I think I'd agree. In my case I got told it wouldnt stop all my hormone problems, which are down to a slightly dodgy pituartry gland (which is prob the cause of all my thyroid problems as well)

Most doctors go down the 'but you'll want babies one day' way of thinking though, so how easy is it for a childless woman to get a doctor to agree to performing the op?
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Postby joyinc » Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:58 pm

[quote="virago"]I know many women who have used this..and ended up pregnant :shock:
yeah, there is quite the failure rate for women who dont follow it properly, but it's very successful when done right. i have never had to abstain during any time of the month. i love this method... its natural, so i dont have to pump myself full of aritifcial hormones that mess me up, that i dont need, and i'm not harming animals in the process :D
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