What is the Most Efficient Style for Street Fighting?

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What is the Most Efficient Style for Street Fighting?

Postby Cade » Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:42 am

I was thinking of enrolling into a martial arts class that will train me in a system of fighting that is right to the point, with no b.s. when it comes to a 1 on 1 situation.

I don't want katas or anything of that nature. I want it to be where the only thing he manages to do is to shove me once--I'll only allow this to see if his intention is to do harm--then I want to take him down with a MINIMUM of exertion. Any tips?
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Postby tylerm » Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:55 am

western boxing, kickboxing, some sort of ground work would be good as many real fights go to the ground... I train Jeet Kune Do, as well as Silat, and that gives me a well rounded approach
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Postby tempehmomma » Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:19 pm

Close range striking
Boxing
Muay Thai
Stand up grappling
Judo (live training will prepare you better for street combat fighting than kata)

Cross training at and MMA/NHB school
Cross training schools will teach you striking and grappling. Although I think some schools put to much of an emphasis on ground grappling because many of their students are training for competion and they will most likely go up against a good BJJ fighter in competition.

I do not know what your financial status is but many schools that teach Muay Thai are somewhat expensive. I used to train in muay thai at a school whos fees were only $60 a month in 2005.
http://www.philadelphiamuaythai.com/
http://www.philadelphiajiujitsu.com/
The other schools in my area charge about $100 for muay thai, cross training or BJJ. As with anything shop and ask around. I do not know how much wrestling clubs (freestyle or roman greco) charge, but I think wrestling is a good substitute for grappling martial arts.
If you are low on funds a boxing club would be a good start.
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Postby David J. » Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:04 pm

when it comes to efficiency , nothing is better than wing tsun.
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Postby GenTDuke » Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:28 pm

David J. wrote:when it comes to efficiency , nothing is better than wing tsun.


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Postby tempehmomma » Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:33 pm

David J. wrote:when it comes to efficiency , nothing is better than wing tsun.

Why do you say nothing is better than wing tsun? I do not know much about the art.

The rest of this post has nothing to do with wing tsun. I just wanted to throw in my criticisms about martial arts in general.
Striking
I think the most effective training method to teach striking is to actually strike pads, heavy bags or sparring. This is how a person developes timing, power, and defensive reflexes like slipping punches. Doing kata/forms or striking air may work for some people but there are no kata in boxing, except shadowboxing and most people would not want to get punched by a boxer.
Grappling
I agree with Jigoro Kano and the gracie clan. Live training will prepare a person for a street situation more so than grappling training that consist of less or very little live training. How does an martial artist know if he/she can apply a joint lock or a choke if they rarely practice applying a technique against a training partner giving them resistance.

Lastly, most adult street fights can be avoided unless you live in a low income area. I know most people know this but some guys on other forums talk a lot of tough guy bad ass shit. I just feel the need to remind people of it every once in a while so know one gets sued, seriously injured or becomes a convicted felon.
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Postby tylerm » Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:10 pm

tempehmma wrote:Striking
I think the most effective training method to teach striking is to actually strike pads, heavy bags or sparring. This is how a person developes timing, power, and defensive reflexes like slipping punches. Doing kata/forms or striking air may work for some people but there are no kata in boxing, except shadowboxing and most people would not want to get punched by a boxer.

Grappling
I agree with Jigoro Kano and the gracie clan. Live training will prepare a person for a street situation more so than grappling training that consist of less or very little live training. How does an martial artist know if he/she can apply a joint lock or a choke if they rarely practice applying a technique against a training partner giving them resistance.


I agree totally, I would learn nothing from just forms, I like getting in there and striking pads, heavy bag even moreso, and especially training with a partner I can go a little hard with. I train mostly with my good friend and we enjoy beating on eachother a bit. I do some forms for Silat, and they usually mean nothing to me until I take it into application. Just plain forms and kata type stuff I don't feel smooth with, when I actually get to apply it, it makes it much more real.

Also, getting hit makes you learn much faster. If you don't parry and get hit in the face, you are going to learn to parry or bob and weave quick!
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Postby tempehmomma » Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:34 pm

Tylerm:
I remember the first time I got decked with a left hook to the temple in class. I can laugh now but it was not funny at the time. :(
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Postby catmogg » Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:42 pm

Any damn style that works for the situation you are in??
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Postby tempehmomma » Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:09 pm

catmogg wrote:Any damn style that works for the situation you are in??

You said you are 5' 6" and can throw most women around like a rag doll. Just body slam a chick. :lol:
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Postby catmogg » Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:13 pm

Lol. :twisted:
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Postby Technotiger » Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:34 pm

If you'd want to take him down with minimum I would say ju-jutsu because it has huge amount of locks and chokes, it has also some groundfighting and you'll learn to give and receive kicks and strikes. It has also many techniques how to get rid of different holds and effective combination techniques.

But in a streetfight against another fighter ju-jutsu might not be enough straight-forward (let's say, he's strong and you cannot get any locks on him). So I would train muay thai for stand up fight, and Brazilian ju-jutsu for possible groundwork (or just mixed martial arts or freefighting).

If you're a smaller girl and you'd have to defend yourself against much bigger and stronger attacker, I would train krav maga.
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Postby GenTDuke » Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:38 pm

I think hamster style kung foo is the most effective (watch orgasmo)
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Postby tempehmomma » Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:43 pm

Demon:
I agree. KM does not require a lot of size or strength to effectively use the techniques of the art.
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Postby Cade » Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:24 pm

Thank you all. I have a lot to consider. You brought up many good points. Price will definitely be a factor seeing how I'm still in school. I'm in NYC so I can hazard a guess that there are quite a few options available to me.

Thanks again and keep training hard.


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