beforewisdom wrote:I have never witness anyone saying out loud:
"Hmm, this store is selling a fur or leather clothing item. I guess that means they think it is good okay to hurt animals for clothing. They're opinion is good enough for me"
In terms of actually introducing someone to a new idea, the best route might be sell a fur coat through a classified ad at on obviously low price. Then, when they ask why so cheap, explain to them the vegan ethic and how because of that you don't want the coat.
Interaction is much better than not having that interaction... that's why economists argue that having market relations between nations lessens the likelihood of war between those states.
However, I said that *I* couldn't sell animal products. I *THINK* (I do not know absolutely), that selling animal products perpetuates the idea that the animals exist for human consumption. By participating in the economy of animal skin, even at the extreme end of "dumpstering" animal skin, or giving it away for someone in "need" of animal skin is part of a dialogue.
I don't *think* that it is unethical to give away (or sell) those animal furs. I just know that *I* wouldn't want to be part of that exchange or dialogue. I
would not like it personally. It clearly is in a grey area. Clearly, no one is actually going to say, "Hmm... this free fur coat from a vegan must mean that animals aren't needed for humans! How can I go vegan!" Clearly no one is going to say the opposite either: "Hmmm. Giving away a fur coat means that humans should use animals as they wish."
I think that it is possible to engage in a dialogue that's constructive without resorting to making the fur coat a part of an economic interaction. I think it is highly unlikely that selling a fur coat for pennies on the dime and then proselytizing will change minds. I highly doubt that giving fur coats to the homeless will change much (not to mention if I was in need I would really dislike getting a fur coat not just because it isn't vegan, but because of what a fur coat means in terms of class).
To be honest, part of my disdain for giving things to charities is because of my experience with the "non-profit industry", and how charities are often designed to perpetuate problems in the long term (such as homelessness, etc.) rather than really ending the problems. I've had to fight charities when fighting societal problems and I've witnessed charities standing in the way rather than helping. I frankly have misgivings about giving to charities, but not to activist organizations. That's my personal
qualm and experience, and that's likely why I also wouldn't feel good about giving coats to a charity, or giving those coats away, or donating them to be used. I would feel sad if I knew those coats were used to make ending animal exploitation just a that bit harder.
"The worker has the right to leave his boss, but can she do it? And if she does quit him, is it in order to lead a free life; where she will have no master but herself? No, she leaves to sell herself to another employer. She's driven by the same hunger. Thus the worker's liberty is only a theoretical freedom, lacking any means of realization; an utter falsehood."