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Postby Linnéa76 » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:45 pm

Hiking Fox wrote:
Linnéa76 wrote:Recently, I found myself tempted by a bag of quorn filets that contained less than 1% eggs, that were said to be organic or free-range...


Quorn is a substance called 'Mycoprotein' that is a fungus grown on an egg-based culture (Gelert, correct my terminology if needed!) so it isn't just another foodstuff containing really small amounts of milk or eggs; it actually is based on eggs, even if only a small amount of egg is in the actual product when it reaches the shelf.


I didn't know it grows on eggs! :shock: Gross. That makes it a lot less tempting...
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Postby bronco » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:11 pm

Dave Noisy wrote:No way!!

And i bet they use free-range or organic eggs, so it's good for chickens too!!

You people need to stop complaining about all the good change that's happening.

Ah, the world is upside down :lol: .
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Postby bronco » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:20 pm

Hiking Fox wrote:Quorn is a substance called 'Mycoprotein' that is a fungus grown on an egg-based culture (Gelert, correct my terminology if needed!) so it isn't just another foodstuff containing really small amounts of milk or eggs; it actually is based on eggs, even if only a small amount of egg is in the actual product when it reaches the shelf.

What is your source for the information that it grows on an egg-based stuff? Wikipedia states that it grows on glucos (which to me sounds more reasonable) and that the egg is only used as a binder. Unfortunately no source is given. The Quorn website only gives mumbo-jumbo.
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Postby JP » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:48 pm

bronco wrote:The Quorn website only gives mumbo-jumbo.


Thats because they are ANIMAL ABUSING BASTARDS!!!!

And if someone wants to post a link to this thread to them, feel free.

They can sue us if they want to - BASTARDS!!!
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Postby JP » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:34 pm

JP wrote:(i too emailed grassingtons)


And got a response already. They say this is the availability of the foods:


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Product   CO-OP   SAINSBURY    MORRISON   ASDA   
Grassington's Beef Style Meatballs   Y            
Grassington's Chicken Style Fillets in a Sage & Onion Marinade   Y            
Grassington's Chicken Style Nuggets      Y      Y   
Grassington's Multigrain Vegetable Bakes   Y   Y   Y      
Grassington's Spicy Bean Quarter Pounders   Y      Y      


damn, cant really read that table (probably quorns fault - THE BASTARDS!!!), but essentially it says that meatballs and chicken filets are available in co-op.

WHICH CO-OP???

I shall embark on a mission to find out...
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Postby Clem Snide » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:36 pm

Quorn ruined your table.
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Postby Hiking Fox » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:42 pm

BASTARDS!!!
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Postby emm7 » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:52 pm

I am laughing a lot now that Quorn have even ruined JP's table :lol:
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Postby Starling in a cage » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:07 pm

JP I think your response to the table is totally fantastic.

If you get to find out which Co-op sells the goods, don't forget to let us know BEFORE you buy it all. :D
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Postby Gelert » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:24 pm

One thing to bear in mind with quorn: the target demographic is not even the vegetarians. It is - to quote from memory from a biotechnology lecture I attended many years ago

"to fill the niche for a food to target women aged 25-45 seeking to reduce but not eliminate their weekly meat input"

Presumably because they outnumber vegetarians. So, currently, what chance have us lot?

Bastards.

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Hiking Fox wrote:
Linnéa76 wrote:Recently, I found myself tempted by a bag of quorn filets that contained less than 1% eggs, that were said to be organic or free-range...


Quorn is a substance called 'Mycoprotein' that is a fungus grown on an egg-based culture (Gelert, correct my terminology if needed!) so it isn't just another foodstuff containing really small amounts of milk or eggs; it actually is based on eggs, even if only a small amount of egg is in the actual product when it reaches the shelf.


I didn't know it grows on eggs! :shock: Gross. That makes it a lot less tempting...


You rang, m'lady.

Actually, it's grown in a continuous flow culture in an airlift fermentor on glucose, with ammonia being added to control pH, and biotin, minerals and vitamins to keep the fungus happy.

The egg is only added during processing as a binding agent. They don't use a lot, but they do need to use it

Linnéa76 wrote: So we can fly to the moon, but it's impossible to make egg-free quorn?


it comes down to our old mate, evolution by natural selection. The original isolate of Fusarium they put in the fermentors grows in nice long stringy hyphae which bind together nicely. Unfortunately, it being a continuous flow culture in an airlift fermentor (English: it gets stirred and bubbled to buggery) there are strong selective pressures on forms which don't produce long stringy hyphae, and they quickly come to dominate in the fermentor. And they don't bind to each other particularly well.

We go on and on about the egg albumen, but many forms of quorn have lots of milk in for recipe reasons.

My external examiner for my PhD viva did develop a vegan quornalike using the tempeh fungus, Rhizopus oligosporus, grown on quinoa. But last I heard, it went bust.

On the offchance things go well in my viva, I'll ask why.
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Postby dolunette » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:01 am

Hi everyone I'm new to this posting on this forum but thought I'd jump right in as I've got some more unfortunate news re supermarkets knocking back on vegan foods. Tesco have stopped doing their vegan fillets and dippers due to lack of demand and to make way for 'more popular lines' (Wonder what those more popular lines would be). I've still got the email they sent me as it makes for depressing reading :(
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Postby jakob » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:14 am

oh guys.... you are fucked...
we don´t have quorn in germany but in switzerland where i go sometimes shopping too...
they can´t put out the egg because this disgusting shit mainly contains of egg!!!

Here in germany we have another, really nice tendency: Viana Stuff in more and more super markets, they sell it under the veggielife brand.
and vegan meat in aldi!
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Postby buzz » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:41 am

That's a shit table JP, and how come they replied to you and not me. Bastards. Bet Grassingtons is owned by quorn. I hate them both now anyway.
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Postby Konstantin » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:57 am

Bastards!!
You can see my training log if you're really bored: [url]www.veganfitness.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16086&start=360[/url]
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Postby Hiking Fox » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:59 am

buzz wrote:That's a shit table JP, and how come they replied to you and not me. Bastards. Bet Grassingtons is owned by quorn. I hate them both now anyway.


Grassingtons is owned by an Irish firm of butchers, as far as I know.

So, to recap:

Grassingtons = BASTARDS

Redwoods = Incompetent BASTARDS

Quorn = Grade A, three stripe, vegan-trampling BASTARDS
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