Nihilism

[JamesAIGI]

Are there any Nihilists on Vegan Fitness?
Is it possible to be a nihilist and an anarchist at the same time?
Is it possible to be an individualist/nihilist anarchist?

[Johnboy74]

"Existential nihilism
Existential nihilism is the belief that life has no intrinsic meaning or value. It can stem from scientific analysis showing that only the physical laws contributed to our existence. With respect to the universe, a single human or even the entire human species is insignificant, without purpose and can make no real change in the totality of existence."
wikipedia

Nihilism makes sense to me as it dissects existence to its core and reveals in inherent nothingness of it all, meaning is brought into the world in the human mind. People argue against nihilism because they look at the world from a human centric point of view.

[xzebrasx]

"Existential nihilism
Existential nihilism is the belief that life has no intrinsic meaning or value. It can stem from scientific analysis showing that only the physical laws contributed to our existence. With respect to the universe, a single human or even the entire human species is insignificant, without purpose and can make no real change in the totality of existence."
wikipedia

Nihilism makes sense to me as it dissects existence to its core and reveals in inherent nothingness of it all, meaning is brought into the world in the human mind. People argue against nihilism because they look at the world from a human centric point of view.

Sounds like plain'n'simple materialistic (or scientific, or reductionist, or...) atheism to me. Isn't there anything more to nihilism than simply rejecting the anthropocentric view of the universe?

To the OP: yes, I think one can be a nihilist and an anarchist.

[Johnboy74]

materialistic atheism?

[xzebrasx]

materialistic atheism?

You know what I mean, don't beat around the bush

[baldy]

And I quote Walter Sobchak: "Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos."

[Clem Snide]

There aren't really any actual nihilists, it's a perjorative aimed at philosophies the speaker considers empty. Anyone claiming to be one is generally abusing the term or mistaking it for an extreme form of philosophical scepticism. Or trying to look haXX0rz nA1LLzz on the internet.

[JamesAIGI]

"Existential nihilism
Existential nihilism is the belief that life has no intrinsic meaning or value. It can stem from scientific analysis showing that only the physical laws contributed to our existence. With respect to the universe, a single human or even the entire human species is insignificant, without purpose and can make no real change in the totality of existence."
wikipedia

Nihilism makes sense to me as it dissects existence to its core and reveals in inherent nothingness of it all, meaning is brought into the world in the human mind. People argue against nihilism because they look at the world from a human centric point of view.

Sounds like plain'n'simple materialistic (or scientific, or reductionist, or...) atheism to me. Isn't there anything more to nihilism than simply rejecting the anthropocentric view of the universe?

To the OP: yes, I think one can be a nihilist and an anarchist.

I am glad you agree.
One can be a nihilist and an anarchist for sure..

[xzebrasx]

I am glad you agree.
One can be a nihilist and an anarchist for sure..

Why do you ask, btw? Are you one?

[Johnboy74]

materialistic atheism?

You know what I mean, don't beat around the bush

So start your looking buff in that avatar pic!

Ok, the materialistic atheism I don't get what your saying, I can see what your trying to say about scientific atheism, but that for me is simplifying it.

Nihilism is a philosophy that is a direct descendent of scientific enquiry at the start of the 20th century. Science is a logical evidence based system, empirical evidence proves truths about the universe. These truths clearly show the universe as a system of laws and nothing else. Nihilism describes what science shows through empirical evidence. For some reason people see nihilism as a negative, implying that nihilism brings about thoughts of pointlessness, anarchy and disappearing of morality. This is not my experience of this at all, for me I can ponder on the nothingness, the meaninglessness of existence but it doesn't encourage thoughts of anarchy more harmony, morality can exist without religion.

I don't believe in a god, I see everything as unique and existing now and now only, I can see the ephemeral state of things, the universe in constant flux. These thoughts make me appreciate the here and now and appreciate all life on this planet, hence my veganism. But I wouldn't label myself a nihilist or any other philosophical stance. I try and see things for what they are and not cloud the truth with bias of the human mind with its encoded thoughts from evolution.

[JamesAIGI]

I am glad you agree.
One can be a nihilist and an anarchist for sure..

Why do you ask, btw? Are you one?

Yes I would say i am a nihilist . I would say I have anarchist leanings....

[xzebrasx]

Ok, the materialistic atheism I don't get what your saying, I can see what your trying to say about scientific atheism, but that for me is simplifying it.

Sure. Then again, most terms and words are - to a degree - simplifications. But since you did get what I meant, the job is done

[Johnboy74]

Ok, the materialistic atheism I don't get what your saying, I can see what your trying to say about scientific atheism, but that for me is simplifying it.

Sure. Then again, most terms and words are - to a degree - simplifications. But since you did get what I meant, the job is done

Ok mods can you lock this thread please, we have reached an understanding and we don't want this thread to spiral into nihilistic anarchy