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Postby Konstantin » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:50 pm

benzilla wrote:Just finished The China Study. I liked what I read, but when I did statistics at uni, the first thing they told us is that we can use them to prove any point we wanted.... I'm no nutritionist, so I don't know how much to believe.


I think that's true about statistics to a limited extent. If you use them in a full way, they are reliable.

For example, you can argue that 30% of road deaths are caused by drunk drivers, so 70% must be caused by sober drivers - so it's safer to drive drunk. If you show the full picture, deaths per mile/hour driven, the picture's very different.

I've not read the China Study but plan to. Apart from the stats, your opinion?
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Postby emm7 » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:23 pm

Papaya wrote:Yes, the homosexuality is key to how he made Stella and Stanley. Ten never understood sex and concluded that everything else revolved around it. Stella really has no other motivation than Stanley, and later on we find out Blanche is just a sexual woman - nothing else to her really. All the rest is just fake. Cat on a Hot Tin Roof has a ot of that too, the end is all about sex solves everything.


yes thinking about this...... what would keep Stella hooked would not be sex alone. If she were a genuine sex addict and that was the only reason she stayed with Stan........ she would no doubt be having affairs with other people in the town! Rather than just being hooked on Stan and nobody else. Ditto Blanche, if that were the case she would not be a serial monogamist but more likely I suspect, stringing several of Stan's friends along at the same time rather than just focusing on Mitch.

They are interesting characters though!
It's the fantasist nature of Blanche that makes me feel so sad for her.
I think that when writing Blanche, TW has put his vivid imagination and his loneliness, and feeling of being "set apart" (outsider), into her. She's literally the outsider in the town, isn't she.

Papaya wrote:Great writing though, and great interpretations. I love the way that period of Amercian writers were poetic with images and themes, but with really simple language.


yes I love the quality of the writing too. There's certainly a lot of poetic longing in it but it's not "too rich" / overblown.
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Postby benzilla » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:50 pm

Papaya wrote:
benzilla wrote:Just finished The China Study. I liked what I read, but when I did statistics at uni, the first thing they told us is that we can use them to prove any point we wanted.... I'm no nutritionist, so I don't know how much to believe.


I think that's true about statistics to a limited extent. If you use them in a full way, they are reliable.

For example, you can argue that 30% of road deaths are caused by drunk drivers, so 70% must be caused by sober drivers - so it's safer to drive drunk. If you show the full picture, deaths per mile/hour driven, the picture's very different.

I've not read the China Study but plan to. Apart from the stats, your opinion?


Agreed with your point about that stats, but it can be difficult to spot someone's bias, especially when you agree with them.

The book itself was excellent, and covers a lot of different problems, i.e. cancer, heart disease, and other common killers, and recommends a vegan diet to address all of the problems. He argues that animal protein causes these problems, or enables them to advance etc...

Also details problems people face suggesting veganism as a solution.. i.e. it doesn't generate any major profits, unlike surgery, vitamins etc..

I would recommend this book to everyone.
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Postby City_of_F » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:54 pm

"Call of Cthulu" - HP Lovecraft.

I've been meaning to read it for awhile... I guess I finally got around to it.

Before that, "Sirens of Titan" by Kurt Vonnegut.

Oh, and since I'm in the middle of my Bachelor's degree... "A History of Modern Psychology" by C. James Goodwin.
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Postby City_of_F » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:56 pm

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.flux wrote:You are all so intellectual. I've just been reading pulp in the form of Kathy Reichs for the past couple of months.

Or it could be that people only post when they read something intellectual :) . I just finished 'Skorpion' (original title 'Black Man') by Richard Morgan.


Okay! okay! I also read, "Resident Evil: City of the Dead" (for the fifth time) 'cause I like stupid, zombie novels. :oops:
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Postby runrevolt » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:59 pm

I just finished "reading" a graphic novel called The Arrival by Shaun Tan. It's a painfully beautiful depiction of the immigrant experience placed in a more magical setting instead of reality. I bought it to put in my son's library for when he gets older.
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Postby kat013 » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:33 am

I just finished reading the biography of Dan Mathews....made me giggle so much!
and before that, 'a thousand splendid suns' by khaled housseini.......definately recommended!
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Postby Konstantin » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:14 pm

"The Chamber" by John Grisham. I wanted to read so grabbed the nearest book, but found it really good and very thought prooking about the death penalty, even for real monsters who actually did the crimes.

'Pension Income Options' by Chartered Insurance Institute. But that was for an exam so probly doesn't count.
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Postby raven » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:02 am

"striking at the roots: a practical guide to animal activism" by mark hawthorne.

i was just thinking about writing a book on animal activism when i was given this book & my heart fell... but at least a book like it is out there! it has some great advice.
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Postby loveliberate » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:13 am

"No Pasaran!" Volume 3 by Vittorio Giardino
http://www.nbmpub.com/comicslit/giardino/prag.html

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Postby JP » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:14 am

Just finished Robert Edwards' White Death-Russia's War on Finland 1939-1940.

My first military history book, and my first exposure on stuff about the finnish war not written by finnish (or via finnish teachers etc).

The book was about the winter war where Soviet Union attacked Finland in order to reclaim tsarist time ground and bases to dominate the baltic sea. Soviets were supposed to walk over finland, but it didnt quite go that way. Harsh winter, good defences and general unpreparedness of the Soviet army meant that the death toll was 10 to 1 with 200 000 Soviet soldiers laying dead by the end of the war.

I learned loads about the suprising significance of winter war in europe in general, and how it destroyed the myth of soviet union as a nation of peace and exposed it as an imperialist force like any other. The impact of this avalanced through europes blinded left and really woke people up. Many other international aspects of it all were also a revelation and new to me, including the absolute lack of international support and fumbles behind the scenes in UK, frnace and sweden - which in turn goes far to explain what happened in the secont stint of the war few years later when finland actually sided with nazi germany to have another go at soviet union.

It was pretty emotional to read about battles which took place where my grandad lived and fought, with comments describing how a small ransack group of finns held off a big soviet advance. My grandad did talk about those times sometimes, and generally hated army and war saying how it was all a bosses war from both sides and they (meaning peasants and workers) just got caught in the middle.

I guess the book was a typical military history book, with the lip service to the horrors of war, but in general just reads like an excited account of an observer about tactics, manouvres, politics and high ranking officers doing important decisions. I guess boys and their toys is one way of defining books like this. He also wrote from a right wing perspective missing some important nyances of finnish sentiments and political history since the civil war. But that was obvious from the start so it didnt bother me so much.

The title, i believe, comes from a finnish sniper, who is claimed to be the most succesful sniper in history killing up to 700 soviet soldiers in just 100 days:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_Häyhä

anyways, very educational for me, and a taste of totally different kind of literary and historical genre.
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Postby cyclebot » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:57 am

the gospel according to the son, by Norman Mailer

pretty awesome
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Postby Crash » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:10 pm

Mind Hunter by John Douglas and Mark Olshaker.
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Postby Clem Snide » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:44 pm

Catch-22, for about the twentieth time. Never gets old.
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Postby The Duke » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:14 pm

Clem Snide wrote:Catch-22, for about the twentieth time. Never gets old.


I read it this year.

Someone saw it and said they thought it was the funnist book they ever read.

Personally I didn't see much humour in it.

A lot of horror, but very little humour.

Much to make me cry, little to make me laugh.
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