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Is running bad for you?

Postby Dunc » Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:42 pm

This might sound stupid, and I'll probably sound stupid, but because of what I've heard from certain people, I've never used running in any part of my training. I've read that it's damaging to your knees because of high impact of something. It doesn't make sense so I thought I'd ask the intelligent compassionate guys I'm coming to be fond of...but they were busy so I thought I'd ask you lot :P

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Postby Dave Noisy » Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:25 am

Seems like a high proportion of runners have bad knees...yes..

But if you're careful you should be able to run and keep your knees healthy...just be careful.
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Postby Jonathan » Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:22 pm

there was a guy who used to live down the road from me who used to do loads of competitive running. he was almost of pensionable age but looked much younger. that said, when i spoke to him recently, he had to give up running due to arthritis, and has taken up coaching.
i have done reasonable amounts of running in the past-last year i ran over 30 miles in one week and i was very proud (and knackered!!). i did enjoy it and i think that it is something that is good to do, but not to the point where you are doing it all the time.
maybe mixing it with other cardiovascular sports is the safest way to improve your running.

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Postby ultra_whippet » Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:21 pm

You can minimize the effects by doing as much running as possible either on treadmills or off-road - i.e. any soft surface. Also make sure you have proper running shoes, go to a specialist running store not some high street place. Diet helps with regard to arthritis, but we should all be ok on that front (make sure you get your Omega-3's).
There's a guy in our running club who is over 75 now, he's been vegan for decades, run competitively all his life and is still running times that put plenty of youngsters to shame!
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Postby Dunc » Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:39 pm

Ok then, lol, could anyone now please reccomend a running routine I could add to my life please? Maybe how many days a week? For how long? What distance? Sprinting, long distance or something inbetween? Or any other helpful information.

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Postby michaelhobson » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:46 pm

DON'T FORGET THE SHOES!

I agree with Skinny, run as much as possible on non-paved surfaces such as fitness trails or in the gym on the treadmill.

However, most important has to be shoes, not only for your knees but all your other joints as well. Go to a running store (ie. not a department store or sporting goods store) and get a proper fit and shoe. Different people need different shoes. Take your old shoes with you, they can look at the soles and see how they are worn and reccomend a good shoe. After that replace them about every 500 miles or 6 months.

Check out http://www.halhigdon.com/ for everything you ever wanted to know about running. Hal has run hundreds of marathons and outlined training programs for everything from a 5k to a double marathon. Double marathon? Some people are nuts :shock:
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Postby Fruitbat » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:50 pm

isnt running on treadmills different from runnng outdoors - i usually get slightly sore muscles if I run outside even if i have been doing lots of treadmill
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Postby TriMe » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:15 pm

I think the important thing is that running isn't that great for you if that's all you do, road running. If you throw in either cross training or light lifting routines to keep your knees in check, it shouldn't be a problem. I used to get much more running injuries when I wasn't also riding my road bike, but now that I throw in a ride (or more likely during the summer, throw in a run 8) ), I've been relatively injury free.

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Postby Dianski » Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:54 am

I don't run a bunch, but I have found that I don't get sore if I increase my distance gradually and stretch properly afterward. By gradually, I mean back off if you are rather stiff or take a leisure jog. I really enjoy sprints (or are they called intervals?), it's a great way to increase speed and overall fitness.

We have a beautiful paved track and I run on the inside grass part. Between those two things and a good pair of shoes you should be great!

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Postby GenTDuke » Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:04 am

Hi, medium to high impact exercise such as running is essential for healthy bones in your later life, if you don’t perform this kind of exercise you are more likely to suffer osteoporosis when your retired.

Moderation is key, allot of runners don’t realise that they are pushing there bodies too far and over-train because they love running to much. If you run on a spring cushioned surface you lesson the long term benefits that come with high impact exercise, I would recommend street running but on the asphalt as much as possible, and running on grass or treadmills when you feel your body is being pushed too much.

Almost no one I talk to even knows what mobilisation is (NOT A WARM UP) and even if they do laugh at me, it is essential before exercise to take your joints through there full range of motion without pressure; if at possible, to encourage the synovial fluid in your joints to lubricate them and prevent your cartilage from becoming damaged.

This is what I was taught at UEL and has helped me with my dodgy knees which were caused by bad nutrition, excessive running and lack of mobilisation I now jog twice a week perform Karate twice a week and lift 3 times a week with no problems.

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Postby Dunc » Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:47 am

Thanks :)

I shall take all your advice into account and use it wisely.lol

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Postby Fudgam » Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:41 am

I run. I have a pair of aching knees. Could be coincidence. Maybe I just have bad knees anyway. I dont know.
But thats my input.
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Postby tylerm » Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:41 am

My knees used to hurt when I was running alot (at least for me), which was at max around 20 miles a week or so, maybe a bit more. I found that lots of stretching helped. What really helped, however, was after I had started doing squats for a while, then went for my first run in a while. I was able to run hills way easier, it surprised me. My quad muscles built up more from the squats, especially lower down on the inside by my knees, definately gained size.
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Postby GenTDuke » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:34 pm

[quote="tylerm"]My knees used to hurt when I was running alot (at least for me), which was at max around 20 miles a week or so, maybe a bit more. I found that lots of stretching helped. What really helped, however, was after I had started doing squats for a while, then went for my first run in a while. I was able to run hills way easier, it surprised me. My quad muscles built up more from the squats, especially lower down on the inside by my knees, definately gained size.


I only started running regular again this month and the muscle I got from strength training has really helped me beat my PBs, it’s just taken me a month to get them used to endurance.

The key to a good work out is this formula

Mobilisation - Warm up - Ballistic stretch (optional) - activity - Post static stretch
As long as you follow this, sort your nutrition and don’t over train you are less LIKELY to get knee pain.
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Postby scenthound » Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:13 pm

Running has strengthened me. When I run a lot and shape up the impact disappears. Because I become a forefoot striker and actually pull my leg upon impact. I'm no ultra runner, only about thirty miles a week. Just develop some idea of training and increase mileage slowly and incrementally.

I've had a past knee problem. It occurred because I was in great shape from distance biking and loosened my knees from doing yoga. Too many hours just sitting. When I started running again in 2000 I damaged a loose knee tendon and it took several years to get back out again. These days I do a lot of strength work, squats, etc. to keep the knees strong and no longer need a knee brace at all.

As already mentioned, the correct shoe for you is essential. Increase the mileage slowly. Stop and walk as often as you need to and you recover sufficiently to resume running without plodding. Done efficiently running will make your joints stronger.
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