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Re: My first ever 10k

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:36 pm
by Konstantin
[quote="KjKranz"]Ok Konstantin. Just for you, today I did some interval work.

17 x 1 mile on an 8:45 pace with no rest between reps

:lol:


:D

Re: My first ever 10k

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:08 pm
by Mr. Cleetus
[quote="xrodolfox"]...But. You know. My mileage is extremely low. Since Monday: this week's total running: ZERO. ...


I really think this is what it all comes down to here. It is pretty simple: if you are running very little, as you are, your fitness will really struggle to improve and you will never enjoy it - it will always be hard work. There is no way around it. If you can dedicate yourself to actually putting some consistent training in, you will find some fitness and likely find you don't hate it so much any more. There are no shortcuts.

I would also say vibrams or minimal running or barefoot running don't work for all (don't work for many). Try changing things up a bit and run with standard running shoes for a while, run off road, force yourself to do some hills. Just do something different. Or find a different sport ;) Why force yourself to do something that you hate so much? It is a triathlon after all; running is an important part. Keep in mind, if you want to move out of the local races you are currently doing, even if you are swimming 15 mins, and assuming you are riding under 1hr, a 50min run (in the tri) is most often not going to get you to the podium.

Re: My first ever 10k

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:41 pm
by xrodolfox
[quote="Mr. Cleetus"][quote="xrodolfox"]...But. You know. My mileage is extremely low. Since Monday: this week's total running: ZERO. ...


I really think this is what it all comes down to here. It is pretty simple: if you are running very little, as you are, your fitness will really struggle to improve and you will never enjoy it - it will always be hard work. There is no way around it. If you can dedicate yourself to actually putting some consistent training in, you will find some fitness and likely find you don't hate it so much any more. There are no shortcuts.


I did that last year. I ran 5.5 miles 5 days a week. I still hated running. Perhaps that wasn't enough, but that's all I could give.

[quote="Mr. Cleetus"]I would also say vibrams or minimal running or barefoot running don't work for all (don't work for many). Try changing things up a bit and run with standard running shoes for a while, run off road, force yourself to do some hills. Just do something different. Or find a different sport ;) Why force yourself to do something that you hate so much? It is a triathlon after all; running is an important part. Keep in mind, if you want to move out of the local races you are currently doing, even if you are swimming 15 mins, and assuming you are riding under 1hr, a 50min run (in the tri) is most often not going to get you to the podium.

I'm swimming it in 10 or 11. ;)
I've swum the 1.5km in the low 17's, if that's what you were referring to.

Re: My first ever 10k

PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:31 am
by Mr. Cleetus
[quote="xrodolfox"]
I did that last year. I ran 5.5 miles 5 days a week. I still hated running. Perhaps that wasn't enough, but that's all I could give.


hmm, well it depends on how you went about it. That could even had been too much if you did not build up to it properly. You have to build the mileage up in what is an appropriate manner for your body and your background, and then sustain that, for an extended period of time. If you honestly did that and sustained consistent running, not skipping weeks here and there, for several months at least (really, it should be more), then I am probably no help to you! Just as an example, I have been running competitively for 30+ years. I had an easy year last year and had some time off from running with some other focus. I started "proper" training again in Jan and am just now starting to feel like I am getting back to where I was 2 years ago and running well (for me). There are multiple complicating factors in there including my own lack of consistency, but the point is things take time. Sorry, I'm really not intended to be a %#% here, just trying to give some perspective.

[quote="xrodolfox"]
I'm swimming it in 10 or 11. ;)
I've swum the 1.5km in the low 17's, if that's what you were referring to.


Well, yes, of course, we are discussing a 10km run, so I was referring to a 1500m ;)

Re: My first ever 10k

PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:17 am
by xrodolfox
I know how to stick to training. I've managed to keep up pretty solid in swimming for years.
Is there always such a steep entry into running?

There was nothing like that for biking, and certainly not for swimming.