whey protein vs fruits and veggies as antioxidant

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whey protein vs fruits and veggies as antioxidant

Postby Koa » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:40 pm

Came across this:

[quote]Sean: Here’s something else I was blown away by when I read it, the idea that whey protein might be a better antioxidant than fruits and vegetables. You say that it works “by increasing levels of an amino acid called glutathione, which fuels the main antioxidant machinery of the cells in the body. Eating fruits and vegetables pales in comparison to the glutathione mechanism. Glutathione also helps recycle other antioxidants like Vitamin C and Vitamin E, decreasing the need to use vitamins. Antioxidants of the fruit and vegetable type float around in the bloodstream and might bump into a free radical, neutralize it, and prevent it from doing damage. Even with massive amounts of blood borne antioxidants, it’s still a crapshoot whether free radicals get nullified. The glutathione-driven system, however, works within each cell and neutralizes free radicals.”

It’s interesting to me because any kind of conventional nutrition education will tell you that it’s fruits and vegetables first and foremost in that department.

Kiefer: Right. And that actually surprised me. Their logic is untested. When you look at the research, some of the most compelling research was done with vegetarians. They take lifestyle matched anthropomorphic matching of two populations. One that eats meat and one that’s vegetarian. And the vegetarians literally have 10,000 times the concentration of antioxidants in their systems, but they have the same rate of all cancers. They also have a higher risk of hyperhomocysteinemia, which is caused by a highly oxidative amino acid. So for all that extra antioxidant machinery that vegetarians supposedly have, it offers no extra protection.


Source: http://www.seanhyson.com/blog/backloadi ... r-part-iii

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Re: whey protein vs fruits and veggies as antioxidant

Postby vegimator » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:42 pm

SAM-e, alpha lipoic acid, milk thistle extract, and melatonin all boost glutathione levels too (and can be vegan). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutathione
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Re: whey protein vs fruits and veggies as antioxidant

Postby tal » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:12 pm

[quote="Koa"]Opinions?


Nothing John Kiefer says on nutrition should ever be taken seriously.
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Re: whey protein vs fruits and veggies as antioxidant

Postby Koa » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:14 pm

[quote="Talyn"][quote="Koa"]Opinions?


Nothing John Kiefer says on nutrition should ever be taken seriously.


How come? Don't know too much about him.
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Re: whey protein vs fruits and veggies as antioxidant

Postby tal » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:24 pm

[quote="Koa"][quote="Talyn"][quote="Koa"]Opinions?


Nothing John Kiefer says on nutrition should ever be taken seriously.


How come? Don't know too much about him.


He charges $60 for a book which contains nothing more than 'eat low-carb during the day, high carb at night, with a whole lot of pseudo-science in an attempt to back it up.
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Re: whey protein vs fruits and veggies as antioxidant

Postby Linnéa76 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:55 pm

It's not true that vegetarians have the same rate of all cancers, colon cancer for instance is significantly more common among meat-eaters.
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