Every few years a new popular diet comes out. Sometimes the same one, the way fashion recycles itself. Often popular diets are based around a magic rule that if you avoid food group X or at least severely control it you will get slimmer, healtier.

The magic trick diet (atkins, paleo, raw vegan diets ) usually works, at first, because people end up cutting out all sorts of junk and end up taking in fewer calories.

The end of these diets come about from several factors. I think one of them is business support. Businesses start producing products that technically fit "the magic rule", but reintroduce calories.

There were fat free foods that injected calories back in by substituting in sweeteners. There is a plethora of atkins/low carb snacks now. If you live near a co-op in an urban area.......and you can afford the draconian prices there are all sorts of raw vegan snacks like raw chocolate, energy cubes, etc.

What's the goal of the thread? To have a comprehensive sticky that gives clear, concise information for how to lose weight and be healthy? Good luck!

I will start us off.

1. Eat fewer calories than you expend to lose weight
2. Get your heart rate up daily
3. Eat as close to 100% of your diet from whole foods as you can
4. Sleep for as long as you feel tired
5. Drink enough water to make your urine slightly yellow
6. Laugh
7. Love and spend time with your friends and family

You said it Fallen_Horse. Took me a long time to realize the things you listed, on my own.

wisdom, not only that, but also on individual level people get more used to it, learn to cook stuff according to the bullshit rules and so on, and hey presto, you are nailing the same calories than before

...hey the same happens when people go vegan too

[quote="JP"]wisdom, not only that, but also on individual level people get more used to it, learn to cook stuff according to the bullshit rules and so on, and hey presto, you are nailing the same calories than before

...hey the same happens when people go vegan too