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Re: Objective Assessment of Paleo Diets

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:15 am
by JP
[quote="etherspin"]
fad diets yes but Paleo has some pretty bold claims eh! Any one of their claims would be bloody big news if proven (the grain thing for example.)


and the fact that it hasnt, speaks volumes :)

the trouble with the proponents of the diets like that is the phenomenon in psychology called Dunning–Kruger effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2 ... ger_effect

:D

Re: Objective Assessment of Paleo Diets

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:58 am
by etherspin
[quote="JP"][quote="etherspin"]
fad diets yes but Paleo has some pretty bold claims eh! Any one of their claims would be bloody big news if proven (the grain thing for example.)


and the fact that it hasnt, speaks volumes :)

the trouble with the proponents of the diets like that is the phenomenon in psychology called Dunning–Kruger effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2 ... ger_effect

:D

well that made for an excellent read! thanks JP

Re: Objective Assessment of Paleo Diets

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:58 pm
by wannalift
I'm late to the party as usual, but you may want to check out this video series. Some nice cameo appearances from our VBB brothers:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egqf7k5Lzhk[/youtube]

Re: Objective Assessment of Paleo Diets

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:58 pm
by thestoatyone
[quote="JP"][quote="etherspin"]
fad diets yes but Paleo has some pretty bold claims eh! Any one of their claims would be bloody big news if proven (the grain thing for example.)


and the fact that it hasnt, speaks volumes :)

the trouble with the proponents of the diets like that is the phenomenon in psychology called Dunning–Kruger effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2 ... ger_effect

:D


Genius.

Re: Objective Assessment of Paleo Diets

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:08 pm
by Fallen_Horse
[quote="JP"]
the trouble with the proponents of the diets like that is the phenomenon in psychology called Dunning–Kruger effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2 ... ger_effect

:D



Tragically, that argument works against ALL viewpoints! :)

Re: Objective Assessment of Paleo Diets

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:55 am
by JP
[quote="Fallen_Horse"][quote="JP"]
the trouble with the proponents of the diets like that is the phenomenon in psychology called Dunning–Kruger effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2 ... ger_effect

:D



Tragically, that argument works against ALL viewpoints! :)


only if you suffer from the effect when trtying to argue that the effect is taking place :D

recognising the limits of your own knowledge is all thats needed...

Re: Objective Assessment of Paleo Diets

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:37 am
by offense74
Interesting from Nathaniel Dominy, PhD:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0PF5R0ywp4[/youtube]

Re: Objective Assessment of Paleo Diets

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:29 am
by beforewisdom
[quote="JP"][quote="Fallen_Horse"][quote="JP"]
the trouble with the proponents of the diets like that is the phenomenon in psychology called Dunning–Kruger effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2 ... ger_effect

:D



Tragically, that argument works against ALL viewpoints! :)


only if you suffer from the effect when trtying to argue that the effect is taking place :D

recognising the limits of your own knowledge is all thats needed...

Are you basically saying make sure you aren't suffering form the Dunning–Kruger effect before you describe someone else from being its influence?

I've seen that a few times in my life. Completely deluded people with wry, amused smiles on their faces about all of the duped masses.

Re: Objective Assessment of Paleo Diets

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:35 am
by JP
[quote="beforewisdom"]
Are you basically saying make sure you aren't suffering form the Dunning–Kruger effect before you describe someone else from being its influence?

I've seen that a few times in my life. Completely deluded people with wry, amused smiles on their faces about all of the duped masses.


not really, just down to accepting the limits of your own knowledge, and actually leaving expertese areas to those with a bit more in depth knowledge on the subject.

We see this in nutrition all the time eh? people making huge claims bypassing experts in the field, and basing their claims on few hours of internet research.

Re: Objective Assessment of Paleo Diets

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:36 pm
by Koa
Interesting reading:

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/gue ... getarians/

Re: Objective Assessment of Paleo Diets

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:53 am
by knackers
[quote="offense74"]Interesting from Nathaniel Dominy, PhD:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0PF5R0ywp4[/youtube]


+1 ^^ this dude is the Dartmouth Associate Professor of Anthropology with a PhD and has a very objective and well respected view on the subject.

Also this >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N3KDq3jvCE has good reference to studies on what our true 'paleo' diet looked like, with hair samples providing alot of data.

Re: Objective Assessment of Paleo Diets

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:38 pm
by JP
hey i loved that clip! great, thanks!