Tubulars(vegan glue)

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Tubulars(vegan glue)

Postby VEGANPOTTER » Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:29 pm

Hello Everyone,
I'm gonna be building a track bike in a couple months and I'm considering my build up. I'll probably use clinchers anyway but tubulars may be an options. Does anyone know what is in the glue used to put tubulars on rims??? I have no idea!!!
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Postby fredrikw » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:04 pm

since there might be more than one company making that kind of glue, your best shot at getting a correct answer is to contact the manufacturer of the glue your LBS sell. better to go directly to the source than to trust second, third or fourth hand information from someone on the internet :D

please let us know which companies you contact and what answer you'll get :)
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Postby Dave Noisy » Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:36 pm

Aye, i'm curious too...tho it's almost a moot point since all tires (i believe) have animal products in them as well... =(

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Postby VEGANPOTTER » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:18 pm

I'll get on that next time I head to the shop and see what they carry...some time in a couple weeks when I pick up my new kit.
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Postby ha » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:35 am

most products in cycling and life for that matter have some sort of animal product or animal testing involved in their manufacture.

the truck that brings my fruit to market runs over animals...

its about doing what we can. focus on what we can control and not what we cant.

most of the animal products used are by-products from the meat, dairy industry.

as we are vegans we are not supporting their financial growth but their downfall.

overtime manufacturing companies will find animal free products as the availibility of animal by products becomes more expensive due to scarsity due to people not eating/drinking animal products.

to simplify it..

cows are raised for meat and milk, not leather, leather is a by product made available for meat and dairy.

dairy cows are not milked to make sodium casienate for glue companies,

sodium casienate is a by product of the dairy industry and hence used as a glue ingredient.

fish are not caught or farmed for flecks in metallic paint. fish scales are a by product of the sea food industry. and are hence used in some paints.

the list goes on and on.

remember, do the best we can, focus on what we can control, not what we cant.

we can focus on being amazingly fit, happy, healthy , vital, drug free members of our community and therefore attract more people to the virtues of veganism.

thats what we can do!
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Postby fredrikw » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:06 am

I agree that we have to do what we can and not beat us up for things that are hard to avoid, the goal is social change, not personal purity.

but you are terribly wrong when saying
[quote]cows are raised for meat and milk, not leather, leather is a by product made available for meat and dairy

this is a myth you're being fed by the animal industry. the very concept of "bi product" is misleading, it is a part that feeds money into the whole industry, you can't just take out one part and call it insignificant, they all contribute to the whole. also, there are lots of cows being raised just for the leather industry, so it's not even correct saying it's the meat and milk that are the main products.
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Postby VEGANPOTTER » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:23 pm

Your right about the leather. Only cheap leather is a bye product of the food industry..."high quality" leather is raised from special cows without barbed wire and things. Its bye products are then used for things such as dog food and then other products. Fish scales for the most part are not used for paint as they used to be but now it is more often than not mined micah(I use it in some of my glazes...not for shimmer:). We can avoid everything thats avoidable...the animals are inconvenienced more than us.
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Postby ha » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:39 am

thanks for the info.

i didnt know that about cows, only minks, ferrets etc.

fcuk it all!
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Postby the crazyest vegan » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:31 pm

HELP!! i'm a bit of a noob only been cycling 5 months, i'm also a road cyclist with the nearest velodrome about 150 miles away, BUT what is the difference between clinchers and tubulars??
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Postby fredrikw » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:35 pm

clincher: separate tire and inner tube (most common nowadays)
tubular: inner tube sewed into a tubular tire, glued onto the rim

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_cl.html#clincher
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_tp-z.html#tubular
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Postby bob_summers » Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:55 am

i think tub cement is a petroleum-based rather than animal. certainly smells that way.
ugh... it's a fookin' minefield, eh. you have to do as best you can.
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Postby the crazyest vegan » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:10 am

so what are they used for tho? i use bog standard rims, inner tubes and tyres when cycling, are these clinchers and tubulars for road or track
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Postby bob_summers » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:21 am

you're using clinchers / wire-ons like 99% of folk.

tubs / sew-ups are lighter & roll faster, so are used mainly by trackies, time triallers and the like.
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Postby the crazyest vegan » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:31 am

must get me some o those tubulars then :P i love timetrialing and the speed you can reach
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Postby bob_summers » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:19 am

don't forget, you need tubular rims too :)
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