xrodolfox wrote:This discussion is incredibly informative. Michigan roads can be amongst the worst in the industrialized roads, especially in Detroit. Luckily, I'm not racing on Detroit's open streets (at least not anytime soon), and thus I would rather get the fastest cheapest tires that i'll only use on race day.
I can keep my regular clinchers for riding in the horrible michigan commutes and the occasional Detroit.
I wanted to spend less than $120 on the pair of tires, but that seems unlikely now. This frightens me.
As Mr Cleetus says, look at some of the British websites. I think 120USD will get you a good set of tubs. Infact, you should have money left over.
And thinking about this whole tub debate, whats the real difference between the fastest and the slowest tubs ? On normal roads, in normal conditions, by cyclists who aren't top class pros ? I think its all very subjective.
As I said in an earlier post, I have used pretty much every brand of tubulars, over the last 30 years. And they all felt pretty fast to me. I have won races using all brands, but the only one that sticks in my mind was the Barum tub that cost me my biggest win. So thats why I think going for a bit of durability is important. Otherwise, unless I am especially dozy, every set of tubs I have used felt fine.
Is there a 30 watts difference between the best and worst ? I doubt it. Maybe 5 watts ? I don't know. Real world measurements are hard to find. Getting the best aero position will give you more than the best pair of silk tubs. Effective training will give you even more.
Its this sort of thing that puts people off cycling and creates stress and worries.If you are going to win, you'll win, whatever, no matter what brand you use. Strength, fitness and self-belief will win you races. Just get a decent set of tubs and you'll be fine.