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Re: Constant hunger, no weight gain

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:37 am
by ha
[quote="Herbsman"]what im saying is, this happened before, in 2006 when i increased my cycling frequency/intensity


My calorie intake can jump from 3000cals a day to 10 000cals a day depending on the amount of cycling Im doing. Ive trained with a lot of TDF riders and taking a glucose drip at night is a common practise to ensure adequate glycogen the next day. Carbs are key.

Eat as much carbs as you want. Start the meal with some sweet fruit and then move on to your salad/rice/pasta etc.

Keep fat intake low and carb intake high. If your carbs are from wholefoods vs refined, automatically your getting enough protein.

Work out how much calories your eating each day and add more if you want the energy to train more. I see it all the time, cyclists undereating cos their sedentary family says 'you eat too much carbs!' and they believe the fatties and then undereat and lose motivation for consistent training/racing/commuting.

I get told EVERY MEAL I eat with non athletes 'your overeating Harley!' and then I say 'would you like to come for an easy spin to xyz tommorrow?' They say 'Oh I havent riden in ages..Im so out of shape..' I say 'thats cos you undereat on carbs and over eat on fat champ! ' :lol:

PS: If you have worms, weigh them and add 10 calories per day of 1g worm body weight. That way your worms will get enough calories too and everyone is happy. Add 4calories if they are tape worms vs pin worms, as tape worms have a higher metabolic rate.

Re: Constant hunger, no weight gain

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:04 am
by Herbsman
Thanks for the advice Harley,

[quote="ha"]
I get told EVERY MEAL I eat with non athletes 'your overeating Harley!' and then I say 'would you like to come for an easy spin to xyz tommorrow?' They say 'Oh I havent riden in ages..Im so out of shape..' I say 'thats cos you undereat on carbs and over eat on fat champ! ' :lol:
Yeah, guys at my workplace really piss me off, always giving me grief about how much I eat (which isn't actually much). Yet when these people have toast in the morning, it's not only SOAKED in butter, it has thick globs of butter deposited on top of it. It's so fucking disgusting it turns my stomach just looking at it :( How anyone can actually enjoy eating that much refined fat, I don't know.

[quote="ha"]PS: If you have worms, weigh them and add 10 calories per day of 1g worm body weight. That way your worms will get enough calories too and everyone is happy. Add 4calories if they are tape worms vs pin worms, as tape worms have a higher metabolic rate.

LOL!

Re: Constant hunger, no weight gain

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:58 pm
by vegcrow
[quote="Herbsman"]
[quote="ha"]PS: If you have worms, weigh them and add 10 calories per day of 1g worm body weight. That way your worms will get enough calories too and everyone is happy. Add 4calories if they are tape worms vs pin worms, as tape worms have a higher metabolic rate.

LOL!


Seriously, that's made my day! Good stuff Harley!

Re: Constant hunger, no weight gain

PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:03 pm
by audi666
glad to hear this isnt only me...

i commute a good deal everyday + other rides/runs/workouts and more or less eat all day. Its a good problem to have :)

Re: Constant hunger, no weight gain

PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:43 pm
by Herbsman
not if you want to look big and muscly as opposed to a scrawny whippet...

Re: Constant hunger, no weight gain

PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:13 pm
by fredrikw
[quote="Herbsman"]not if you want to look big and muscly as opposed to a scrawny whippet...

Looks can of course be important, but I'm curious why you want to be big and muscly if you're a cyclist looking at doing races. Any extra kg, muscle or not, will only impair your performance.

Re: Constant hunger, no weight gain

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:45 am
by Herbsman
When I say big... not like a bodybuilder or anything. Just unlike a kenyan marathon runner.

Re: Constant hunger, no weight gain

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:48 am
by Herbsman
srsly... my legs are thinner than this guy's:

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Re: Constant hunger, no weight gain

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:54 am
by fredrikw
[quote="Herbsman"]When I say big... not like a bodybuilder or anything. Just unlike a kenyan marathon runner.

They are however really good at their sport, and I think quite few people see them as malnourished and weak :D

Just to get some perspective here, at 63kg I'm far from being big or muscly, but I never get the malnourished weak vegan stereotype thrown at me. Perhaps it's because people hear about my sport (MTB marathons), and realizes that this could never be done if I had any deficiencies.

Re: Constant hunger, no weight gain

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:07 pm
by Herbsman
Nah, I'm not worried about what other people think. I just love muscles. I love the shape of them, the curves, the definition, the feel of them. I once spent twenty minutes squeezing my calves and admiring my thighs in lycra, and in doing so made myself late for work. I often stare in amazement at other people's muscles too

Re: Constant hunger, no weight gain

PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:52 pm
by Clem Snide
[quote="Herbsman"]Nah, I'm not worried about what other people think. I just love muscles. I love the shape of them, the curves, the definition, the feel of them. I once spent twenty minutes squeezing my calves and admiring my thighs in lycra, and in doing so made myself late for work. I often stare in amazement at other people's muscles too


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