[quote="the crazyest vegan"]haha that is very true! but cinelli are known for been good frames, that man machine frame is been offered to me for £730 but if anyone can recomend a decent carbon frame for that price let me know, i think i looked at some cyfac frame's and they were out of my price range :'(
Have you checked out the Planet X carbon frame ? It looks great, and I am told its awesome. Plus its so cheap you think there must be something dodgy about it. I am told its better than frames costing twice the price.
And they have some crazy deals the moment, on complete bikes. Carbon frame and full Dura Ace for under £900 ! Selling them at cost, to pay a tax bill, I believe !