[quote="hagard"]Not that I am sayin that these substances are in any way bad, but reading about this really gives me an understanding of how illegal substances can spread in a group of people (such as the tour). Because reading about this I'm starting to think that one can not be without these things you are eating that I have never heard of. At least not if one wants to be able to go as fast as others. Sort of like that training hard isn't enough. Makes me doubt whether I can really be sure that I would be able to refuse a mysterious doctor approaching me if I were a professional cyclist.
Your English is better than my Swedish !
These things, in the main, are to help an athlete recover from training, so that the athlete is able to train again, at a high level, and hopefully get fitter. We all know, I hope, that there is no substitute for training. But for me, if I can recover more quickly, then I can train harder, and maybe reach my goals.
Most illegal substances in sport, are illegal because they have the potential to damage health. I have ridden at quite a high level, in France, and have seen things, in older cyclists, that would scare anyone. One former King of the Mountains, I remember, when he drank a glass of water, it came straight out, within ten minutes. His kidneys were totally wrecked from using illegal drugs. Anyway, these substances we have discussed are not harmful, at all, to the best of my knowlege. They are just to support us, in training.
There are plenty of people out there, riding on nothing. So if you want to be that way, you don't have to worry at all. If you have the ability, the drive and the determination, you can get to the top using nothing. You can eat a poor diet, and neglect your vitamins, and still make it.
But on here, we are all vegans, and have made choices regarding nutrition. Its an interesting point, but where does good nutrition end, and doping begin. I truly believe that being vegan gives me an edge over the competition. So should a vegan diet be banned ? I believe a vegan diet is better fuel for a cyclist than a meat based diet. So am I cheating ?
I think I have made the best choices, within the rules. So I will use whatever is within the rules, to beat the competition. Maca, wheatgrass, whatever. If its within the rules, and vegan, and may give me an edge, I am up for it.
But being vegan, and taking maca, is not going to give the the improvement, in the short term, that an injection of Belgian Pot will give me. But over a number of years, being vegan will be healthy, while taking Pot Belge will, at best, make me an addict, and at worse, kill me.
I can give you a protocol, of 125mg of Testosterone Cyp, every four days, an arimidex or tamoxifen tab every day, some equipoise injected once a week, and some Stanazol tabs, taken three times a day, that will make you feel like a Tour de France winner. You'll be able to train hard, every day. But over five years, it will give you serious health problems. Taking some Maca, and the other things we have talked about will just help us 'pure' athletes be the best we can be.
Hope that puts your fears to rest !