Double Bodyweight Squat in 2006 Challenge!

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Postby JP » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:57 am

drummer boy wrote:JP?


please, go ahead :D

You can always edit your own message, so you can edit the first message and add the table there. Do you have microsoft exel spreadsheet programme? That makes maintaining the tables easier, i could send you the instructions?
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Postby sensless » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:05 pm

I attempted a 415 front squat last night and was unable to do it. I didn't try anything between 315 and 415 so I can't really adjust the number. I did a pretty easy double with the 315 though, I'd guess my front squat is closer to 365 or 385. So I should be able to hit the 420-ish in a couple months (end of Feb.).

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Postby drummer boy » Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:02 pm

Noted, sensless.

To set up the table for this challenge, I need everyone to post their current bodyweight, the type of squat they intend to employ in the challenge (e.g. back squat, front squat, hack squat, overhead squat, etc.), and their current max at that squat. You can PM me or post your current stats on this thread.

I would add one rule regarding the form--whatever type of squat is employed, it should involve a depth of at least parallel, at minimum. That is, at some point during the squat, the hips should be level with the knees, or below. No half-squats, quarter-squats, or lockouts. And of course, we are talking about barbells and freeweights, no machines!

Other than that, the challenge is underway and will end on December 31, 2006.

It would awesome to see everyone who takes this challenge make a double-bodyweight squat this year. Best of luck to all!
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Postby JP » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:17 pm

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bodyweight: 105kg
current max: 192.5kg
target: 210kg
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Postby Joe C » Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:10 am

okay, I'll give it a shot, too....

Regular ol' back squat, bw=81 kg, max now=147.5 kg, need 162 kg.
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Postby Gliondrach » Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:10 pm

I will compete without competing. I will quietly work towards the target. I am actually doing 11 reps with 130 per cent of my bodyweight on the bar, not 125 per cent as I wrongly said. I haven't done any sqauts since 30th of December, due to my back giving me pain. I intend to do some this evening. But I intended it yesterday and the two days before. I have kept up my squat thrusts, leg raises and general jumping about. Very little can stop me doing those. I can't prove that I have reached my target without going to a gym and getting someone there to sign something. I am not going to a gym, so I will not officially join the contest.
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Postby JP » Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:46 pm

Gliondrach, i think we can take your word for it mate ;)

one thing to watch out though is the depth, breaking parallel is really, really deep squat in comparison to what most people regard as a squat. I am not lying if i say that out of the about 100 kids who squat in my gym, only 4 go to parallel or below, our powerlifting crew plus one more trainer!

Anyways, if you do the squats down to parallel, then we can take your word, so please do join in!

Actually, your squat is better than mine, i can't do 130% of my bw for 11 no way!
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Postby Gliondrach » Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:57 pm

Yes, I go to parallel. It really hurts the hips. I do hack squats, remember, which are probably easier than normal ones.

I might officially enter the competition but only if I feel waves of love and acceptance being beamed towards me.
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Postby bronco » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:59 am

Gliondrach wrote:Yes, I go to parallel. It really hurts the hips. I do hack squats, remember, which are probably easier than normal ones.

I haven't tried those, but Ive heard that the technique is not entirely easy. It may be highly dependent on how you're built I guess, proportions etc. Do you find the technique to be as easy as regular squats? Not that those are eniterly easy either of course :).
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Postby JP » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:25 am

a guy squatting 180kg for reps did hack squats with about 80-90kg, so not all find them easier :D
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Postby bronco » Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:07 pm

Quite offtopic, but impressive picture: 780 pound hacklift :shock:
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Postby drummer boy » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:13 am

Gliondrach, remember, this is a "challenge," not a competition. The only competition is with yourself, you versus the barbell, although everyone is here to give you a boost, if and when necessary!

Hack Squats look pretty tough to me. Double bodyweight is a lot of weight, no matter how you get it off the ground! Looks like you'll need a strong grip as well, something you don't need for back squats.

If you post your numbers (bodyweight and current max) I can add you to the table.
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Postby Gliondrach » Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:44 pm

JP and Bronco, I am puzzled by that other lifter only managing half in the hack of what he did in a back squat. Perhaps he was doing them wrongly. Or he might have very short arms. I think that could cause problems. I have longish arms and shortish legs. Think of a slightly less powerfully-built, slightly less-hairy and slightly better-looking gorilla.

That is a very impressive lift by Wahlgren. It looks as if it was taken in the 1950s, judging by the suit and Wahlgren's Marcel Wave. I should be able to lift that much by the middle of next year.

I don't lift the weight from the floor. I have the discs standing on two chairs. I lift the bar, take a couple of steps forwards and then squat. I put it back on the chairs when I have finished. I did my first squats with weights on 11th November and have done them six times. I've never done back squats. I don't have a rack. I think they might put too much strain on my lower back. It could be dangerous trying to get the bar back on the rack, especially if my back goes before I manage to do so. The fact that I exercise in the dark might make it even more dangerous.

Drummer Boy, it could be difficult if I lifted from the ground but I don't. I also use a normal grip with both palms facing backwards. With discs the size of those in the photograph it would be impossible to squat to parallel. Or is the camera angle to blame? My grip did start to weaken, epecially my left hand on the last set at about rep 10. I only just managed to get the bar back on the chairs.

I don't know what my 1RM is. I don't want to test it until I know that my back can manage. I am proceeding very gingerly.
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Postby JP » Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:59 pm

Gliondrach wrote:The fact that I exercise in the dark might make it even more dangerous.


I'm sure there is a story to this one :D How on earth is that possible!?!

What is yhour deadlift at the moment?
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Postby Gliondrach » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:06 pm

I even bath in the dark. I don't need the lights on - I know where everything is. There is some light from the street lights. My main reason or only reason is that I am a miser.

In my last session, on the 30th, I did one set of 14 with 185lbs and then decided to increase it to 195 - the magic 13stones 13 pounds. But I absentmindedly picked up 2 10 pound discs instead of 5 pounders. It was only when I had put the first one on that I realised my mistake. It was too dark to find the 5 pound discs so I did the squats with 205 lbs. I did 2 sets of 11 reps and then my back began to warn me to stop.
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