by Ava Odoéména » Tue May 29, 2007 1:46 pm
[phaedral]
> I also like Erske's response because it's the polar opposite of the nearest
> and dearest veggie/vegan in my life, my little sister. I once saw her kick
> a dude in the shins with her steel toed boots for daring to eat a turkey
> sandwich in front of her.
Well your sister is neither vegetarian nor vegan then. Humans are animals as a quick look into a biology book will confirm, so violence against humans is not vegan.
> That attitude may not be as prevalent other
> places, but it always seemed to me too many vegans here in Southern
> California were humorless, stuck up, holier than thou sh*ts.
Hm. The defamation of vegans who have no shame confronting offenders with their deeds, a self-confident proclamation of the ethical rights of the victims usually is a persecutor of animal violators trying to put vegans down in order to feel better about themselves.
> Today I still allow honey and the occasional bit of fish
Bingo. So you eat meat and honey and you
> haven't even thought about giving up my Birkenstocks.
In other words, you're condoning and committing much more violence than those "folks", you like to smear as:
> sh*ttng all over people for what we
> disagree with."
Well let me tell you that I disagree with you on several important things. First, I would like you to allow fish. Allow them to live. If you have recurring dreams about eating the flesh of fish persons, discuss that with your therapist put please don't actually go forward with the act. Also, do the same if you have dreams about raping someone... You know, discuss it with your therapist but don't actually go forward with the act. Secondly, please don't steal insect puke from the bees. They put a lot of effort into collecting and swallowing nectar, transporting it into the hive in their stomachs to puke it out again - for themselves. There are many alternatives to bee puke in the health food shops. Ask yourself: "Why am I eating bee puke, but not cockroach puke?" Thirdly, and this a personal favor I'm asking from you, please take that passive aggressive bullshit of smearing vegans who confront you with your violations as violent fanatics (even *using* your own sister to do that) when in reality it is you who is the violent offender, write that passive aggressive bullshit down in a text processor of your choice, print it out, roll it up and shove it up your funky butthole.
> So I get to hang out with cool folks who are ahead of me
> on the curve and learn from them.
What you meant to say is that "Well I like to hang out with vegans for fetishistic reasons, however continue to do exactly as I please, eat meat, insect puke and walk around dressed in skin, and I preemptively shield myself from any criticism by manipulating group opinion using passive aggressive smearing and defamation tactics and I do not even stop abusing my own relatives to do just that."
> Pretty cool indeed.
Uh, maybe not.
> Peace.
We used to have a boy in our classroom who liked to pull the hair of girls and then shouted "peace" every time the victim flew around in the silly hope that could somehow hypnotize the victim by appealing to their moral sense while continue to do what he enjoyed. It often worked.
I think this is the best. Some people actually do feel threatened by veggies/vegans - it's easy to tell by the sudden change of facial expression, attitude and tone of voice - so I think the best response is to pick them up on it. 
