Over rated and Under rated techniques

[Zaii]

Tylerm, how often do you grapple bro?

[tylerm]

Tylerm, how often do you grapple bro?

I train in Silat and do so an hour a week or so, not that much compared to MMA or anything like that. I am competent but by no means a grappler! Definately better as a striker.

[jonwade]

Any kicking above waist can cause problems in street fights. A good hard thigh kick can slow an oponent though, if someone is not expecting it they probably won;t react in time to block. But you have to be pretty close anyway for that.

My instructor always says that most street fights end up on the floor if no-one gets that big punch, so grappling and wrestling is useful to know.

[tempehmomma]

Any kicking above waist can cause problems in street fights. A good hard thigh kick can slow an oponent though, if someone is not expecting it they probably won;t react in time to block. But you have to be pretty close anyway for that.

My instructor always says that most street fights end up on the floor if no-one gets that big punch, so grappling and wrestling is useful to know.

Why have several people on this thread suggested kicking someone in the leg? The KNEE

[GenTDuke]

Any kicking above waist can cause problems in street fights. A good hard thigh kick can slow an oponent though, if someone is not expecting it they probably won;t react in time to block. But you have to be pretty close anyway for that.

My instructor always says that most street fights end up on the floor if no-one gets that big punch, so grappling and wrestling is useful to know.

Why have several people on this thread suggested kicking someone in the leg? The KNEE

Right on man, come on noobs get it right The knee from the side if bent or straight on if straight.

I think we all agree kicking above the waste can be dangerous... to your self.

[tempehmomma]

Any kicking above waist can cause problems in street fights. A good hard thigh kick can slow an oponent though, if someone is not expecting it they probably won;t react in time to block. But you have to be pretty close anyway for that.

My instructor always says that most street fights end up on the floor if no-one gets that big punch, so grappling and wrestling is useful to know.

Why have several people on this thread suggested kicking someone in the leg? The KNEE

Right on man, come on noobs get it right The knee from the side if bent or straight on if straight.

I think we all agree kicking above the waste can be dangerous... to your self.

Unless you are Maurice Smith.

[jonwade]

I never said leg.....

[tempehmomma]

This is what a 6 foot 4 inch 380 lb ex-National Football League lineman and powerlifting can do to 3 police officers in a streetfight. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... _n11502145 He must of followed a 5x5 or a 3x3 routine.

[GenTDuke]

This is what a 6 foot 4 inch 380 lb ex-National Football League lineman and powerlifting can do to 3 police officers in a streetfight. fight. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... _n11502145 He must of followed a 5x5 or a 3x3 routine.

Hardcore

[tempehmomma]

The only good cop is a dead cop
Police brutality must come to a stop
Cop Shot by Dead Prez

[ronin]

Seriously overrated...going to the groung..alright for 1 on 1, not so great for group attacks or when you're in a parking lot w rocks, curbs or broken glass around.
Underrated...low kicks to the knees and thighs, low leg sweeps, and simple straight front kicks (sternum or below.) Just my humble opinion

[JustinGrant]

Not much new to say, I'm afraid...

Overrated: high kicks, the "haymaker," ground fighting (in a street fight, you're very rarely going to be fighting one person only)

Underrated:
- elbow strikes (great for speed and close range fighting)
- side kicks at stomach or lower-chest level (my style uses back leg side kicks, which are slower but very strong)
- push kicks (not a standard front kick, but a front kick where your body moves into the target at the end of the kick, "pushing" the target back as you strike - it's great for creating distance and temporarily stunning someone, plus it's very fast and can surprise the hell out of your average drunken tough guy)
- the good old jab (you typical streetfighter always goes for the traditional haymaker/wide hook. The jab is faster and very strong if you punch correctly, ie. from the hip. It will also catch people off guard)
- knife/ridge hand strikes (if you know where to hit, these can be devestating)
- running away really fast (not as cool looking but much better in the end)

I would list knee breaks, elbow breaks, etc, but frankly, I think I wouldn't want to ruin someone's life like that unless I was in actual life-threatening danger.

[GeorgeXVX]

imo

over:
Looping hooks
soccor kicks
jumping knees
flying knees
head down charge of rights and lefts (ufc current striker style)
spining anything
switch high kicks

under:
superman punches
inside leg kicks
elbows to temples
standing to submissions (people dont see it coming)
neck cranks
leg kick high kick combos
body hooks
sparwl to knee
switch low kicks
foot stomps
knees to the body
punch and elbow combos


i could probally go all day on what i think is under rated!

[GeorgeXVX]

The only good cop is a dead cop
Police brutality must come to a stop
Cop Shot by Dead Prez

police state by dead prez is my entrance music.... btw

[Malcolms Billy]

Okay, as a total newby, I've read through the whole thread and thought pretty much the same: any sort of high kick looks really good when someone who's good at it does it, but boy if you're not you'll land yourself in a whole lot of trouble.
Wide hooks n that, agree. You can see them coming from miles away, unless your opponent is really quick - but then they'd prolly use something more effective anyway.
Me being 1.65m and noth particularly strong physically, have found straight jabs to the nose very effective - the couple of seconds of disorientation of your opponent is often just enough to leg it to somewhere safer - as well as back fists when being grabbed from behind.
Elbows seem great when an opponent has come too close to effectively strike - but I'd need to practice a lot more to be effective with those.
Kicks to the knees would seem very effective too, but if an opponent was too close I'd prolly go for a good stomp on an ankle.
But to be honest, if at all possible, I'd just shout at someone to FUCK OFF and get myself to safety.