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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:36 pm
by :x:
what exactly are you trying to tell me?!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:40 pm
by SpugFab
[quote=":x:"]why israel?! it's a state with such a unique history and meaning to lots of people, why don't you see that?!

Britain also has a unique history and meaning to lots of people.

We need to find a country it is ok to protest in :?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:43 pm
by JP
[quote="spug_myers"]
We need to find a country it is ok to protest in :?


sweden. Totally non unique history and doesnt mean shit to anyone?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:48 pm
by Gelert
http://www.sealandgov.org/

Will that do you Spug?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:48 pm
by Gelert
Edited - double post. Sorry everyone.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:48 pm
by :x:
well, israel is the only life insurancy jews do today have. so?!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:52 pm
by hoffmeister
I'd say most jews would be safer in Sweden regarding attacks of their beliefs/etnicity/whatever

JP
You are still angry about the potatoe imperialism aren't you?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:55 pm
by SpugFab
[quote=": x :"]well, israel is the only life insurancy jews do today have. so?!

So that's what all this fussing and a feuding is about? :shock:

Easily solved:

http://www.moneysupermarket.com/LifeInsurance/uk-life-insurance.aspx

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:56 pm
by JP
[quote="hoffmeister"]JP
You are still angry about the potatoe imperialism aren't you?


youre damn right i am man! Dont get me wrong, i like potatoes, thanks, it was nice that sweden brough them to finland. But it was a high price to pay for centuries of imperialism and never ending oppression.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:56 pm
by :x:
i don't think so, antisemitism is still widespread, although it's now more latent, pogroms can happen again, maybe even a second shoah can happen again. this is what the idf are meant to avert.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:05 pm
by Gelert
[quote="spug_myers"][quote=": x :"]well, israel is the only life insurancy jews do today have. so?!

So that's what all this fussing and a feuding is about? :shock:

Easily solved:

http://www.moneysupermarket.com/LifeInsurance/uk-life-insurance.aspx


[quote="BBC Shocker"]Spug Myers appointed Middle East envoy to replace Tony Blair.

From the man who brought you lolfail and Spug Fu, we now have Mending the Middle East with Myers.

Brilliant. Run with it mate.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:48 pm
by israel
ok...............ok

i said it at the begining of turning vegan and ill back it up : if your VEGAN AND YOU KILL i will hate you but im still going to treat you nice ........ so :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :

you can come back to israel if you want misosoup and if i will meet you here and youll need help you will get it - maybe just maybe you will try to come and see what is really going on here - ( its to hard for me to say what im thinking here to start talking pollitics here- even though i have a very strong opinion!)

being nice to vegan and helping vegans get stronger and feel better will make more pepol vegan = helping more animals = very importent

what can i do ..... i prefer animals over humans any day - thats why i close my eyes ---- even when i think your hurting pepol ( mainly arabs and not jews ) by your actions :cry:

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:36 pm
by puppydog
[quote="Gelert"][quote="BBC Shocker"]Spug Myers appointed Middle East envoy to replace Tony Blair.



i'd like to give the lady that does that business report a BBC Shocker.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:23 am
by october_lost
[quote=":x:"]nope. the apartheid was unique in its extremety. israel is not an apartheid-state. arab-people are in the knesset, and part of the everyday-life. the problem is of course the ongoing war or semi-war between palestinian extremsit groups and israel...

Israel is an apartheid state, research their welfare system and you will see it discriminates against non-jews. Theres also the issue of occupation...

Yes their is a fetish about Israel particuarlly by the liberal left, and regimes such as Saudi Arabia are as despotic in terms of oppression, but Israel is unique in a geo-political sense because its funded by the states to act as a its policeman in the ME.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:06 pm
by :x:
well, one can argue a lot about the discrimation-thing. every state is racist. that's my view on that.
israel was not founded as a policeman in the ME, it was founded by people that just survived the hugest act of barbarism ever, people that were not able to live anywhere else, few exceptions maybe, wihout being threatened. zionism is not about "hey, let's kick some arab ass!" it's rather about "hey, let's survive!"