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Russel Brand interview

Postby knackers » Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:08 am

Love this guy!

Go Russell Brand!! haha

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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby mo! » Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:36 am

agreed
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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby JP » Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:01 pm

awesome!

he is getting better and better, that award acceptance speech he did a while back was awesome too!
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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby VeganGraham » Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:17 pm

I don't think The Establishment have got too much to worry about as long as Russell Brand is being hailed as the spokesman for the revolution.
He sounds more like Kevin The Teenager getting in a strop because he can't have his own way than someone proposing a realistic alternative to the current system.
The awards thing was funny, because it's always funny to see a celebrity who doesn't take themselves seriously have a go at those who do.
It's funny to see someone eloquent, angry and sweary have a go at politicians as well.
It's not so funny to see so many people think that that is all it's going to take to change the world for the better.
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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby JP » Sat Oct 26, 2013 11:26 am

i think its ok. He wont claim he is a spokeperson, he said repeatedly he is just an actor, he has his opinions and desires and wants to voice them. The modern change is more like a noice rather than a single voice anyway, no big thinkers or leaders please, those routes have fucked up enough already.

but you do have a point too, lots of anger about, lots of want for change, but no real directions or strategies.
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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby baldy » Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:55 pm

The good thing is it has got a lot of people talking which is maybe what he wanted?

Fundamentally I think he might be wrong though, if you look at the numbers, voter turnout dropped ridiculously in the 90's but is now picking up again.
http://www.ukpolitical.info/Turnout45.htm

No doubt there is apathy but still 65% of the people are engaging in the political system. The fact that only a narrow hierarchy of people get into power is an issue, so many British Prime Ministers coming from Eton college is clearly fucked up. Not voting is only going to make it worse though, specially if the only people voting are the guys from the narrow hierarchy.

Also with the "rise" of UKIP (a Eurosceptic right-wing populist political party), I think it shows that given an issue people will vote and can challenge the main parties.
Russels argument was also rather annoying in how it mixed UK, US and world issues.
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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby VeganGraham » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:29 am

[quote]He wont claim he is a spokeperson, he said repeatedly he is just an actor...

That's what makes the way this is being shared all over Facebook all the more disappointing.
There is so little genuine alternative to the current system, that the masses are desperate to thrust greatness on someone who doesn't even want it.

I empathise with him a lot because I have never voted, I can see things need to change, but I don't really know exactly what change I want.
At the moment, it looks like the only choice is between two different groups of old Etonians, or a single issue party who thinks we can solve all the UK's problems by sending all the foreigners back home.
Even with the bankers and politicians skimming all the profit off the top, the average UK peasant is still better off than the average person living in any country that's had a socialist revolution, so I'm not prepared to give up on capitalism entirely.
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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby vegimator » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:42 am

[quote="Big Good Wolf"]
Even with the bankers and politicians skimming all the profit off the top, the average UK peasant is still better off than the average person living in any country that's had a socialist revolution, so I'm not prepared to give up on capitalism entirely.


But the reason the average UK citizen is doing well is because our standard of living rests on cheap global goods and labor. We can only enjoy this situation as long as we're happy to keep exploiting workers in other countries.

I guess the way around this would be if he we achieved some kind of tech-utopia where a self-maintaining robot labor force took care of all physical labor for us. I'm not sure what capitalism would look like in that scenario though and it's a pipe dream anyway.
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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby xrodolfox » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:14 pm

I don't want to like Brand, or Banksy, but they're both just so hilarious, easily available as mass media sensations, and they both tend to articulate values I share on occasion. I can't help but like them, even if it's full of my pretentious critiques.
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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby JP » Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:06 pm

it would be sad though if someone couldnt voice their opinions just because they are famous, comedians and do not have all the answers.

I liked that he used the word socialist - eventhough it can mean so so many things (i know he is more or less an anarchist so his socialism wouldnt be some kind of barbaric bureocracy and party leadership tyranny).

the fact that its been shared by millions also says something about desire for alternatives!

hey isnt this fucker vegan too???
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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby JP » Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:11 pm

my opinion about the voting though:

i dont think its wise tactic to make a big deal about it and organise boycotts when left is so weak anyway. I vote in all elections i can, but do not place any faith or trust into it, just dont believe it is about "ligitimising them" or anything of the sort. The ruling class will always find ways to legitimise themselves, they dont need voters for that.

I think vote boycotts are good only as a tactic, and one would need to have a mass based movement to pull it off with any kind of real world implications.

Also, i think any kind of meaningful change will come from mass movements anyway, and even better if there is a left leaning government so that people do not hold illusions of change with teh change of goverment but would see how important the extra parlamentary stuff is no matter who is in power.
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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby knackers » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:10 am

yeah he is vegan.

I'm confused as to who would claim he is a spokesperson or as to who would actually think he is suppose to have all the answers..
Because he talks about these subjects and is famous doesn't make him a guru or leader in any way, he is a voice that just so happens to have the interest of media and talk shows and access to people in his own right as a comedian and actor.

He is highlighting the issue of exploitation, e.g.:exploitation of people/animals/planet by the 1%, the more people that think about these issues the better. Because the next step is people actually changing themselves in the way they view the world, which leads to wider action and demand for change on a larger scale. The more popular he becomes the better, because he actually gives a shit and who knows he might get veganism out there more too.
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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby ratfan » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:59 pm

Personally I'm glad he's talking about these important issues - after all he is rich enough not to have to give a toss. I love a celeb who has something to say and doesn't feel the need to tow the line and not make waves.
And he's vegan - I also read that he is involved with some sort of vegan power group in the states of pro-animal movers and shakers - great things could come of it.
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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby VeganGraham » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:11 am

On a sort of similar theme, Bill Oddie does a wildlife programme style sketch on HSBC.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX3k75ps0VQ[/youtube]

For those not familiar with British culture, Bill was one third of The Goodies, a TV comedy show in the '70s with some similarities to Monty Python.
He's now better known for presenting bird watching and nature programmes on TV.

I don't like the way some people get more publicity just because they are famous, but that's the way the world works, and if Russell Brand, Bill Oddie, Pamela Anderson, Mickey Rourke or Bob Geldof can use their influence, and their money, for the greater good, then so be it.
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Re: Russel Brand interview

Postby JP » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:18 pm

another interview with way more indepth politics, and also goes to show how he doesnt think he knows much and that should now slow him down :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3PalrfEF4g[/youtube]
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