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Vegan ultra runner?!

Postby TattooRunner » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:42 am

G'day! I'm new to this forum and am excited in gettin involved and getting some new tips from you all.

I live in australia and am currently a vegetarian. I run ultra marathons and am currently averaging about 100-160km a week running training both barefoot and in huraches.

I have done quite a bit of research on both vegan and raw food diets. I am especially keen on the possibility of going vegan. The concern I have is getting enough calories/fuel for my trainin and races.

I would love to hear from anyone in my boat that may be able to offer any advise or even what their daily diet may look like.

Looking forward to getting invoved on this site and hearing and learning from you All.

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Re: Vegan ultra runner?!

Postby NatB » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:44 am

Morning! Which part of Oz are you in?
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Vegan ultra runner?!

Postby Talyn » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:58 am

Heya, welcome!
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Re: Vegan ultra runner?!

Postby loveliberate » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:47 am

Hello & Welcome! :D

I have actually never heard of anyone worrying about getting enough calories on a vegan diet! If anything it seems like Vegans tend to do particularly well with endurance based athletics - folks like Scott Jurek & Brendan Brazier spring immediately to mind, as well as all our VF folks. What exactly do you currently eat that you are concerned about replacing with a vegan alternative?
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Re: Vegan ultra runner?!

Postby Konstantin » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:50 am

Hi and welcome

There are a lot of very calorie dense foods to eat both when running and in preperation/recovery/normal life. in my running days I used to make a 'cake' of mashed banana, soakes dates, avocado and cooked rice to help it stick together. Looked horrible, tasted good and loads of nutrients and calories.

I think the most common error in going vegan is not eating enough. Hope you find help here anyway.
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Re: Vegan ultra runner?!

Postby skoptic » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:12 pm

Hey TattooRunner,

Good work on the training and goals :) I'm a vegan ultra runner - done over 25 ultras (got a 40 miler in 2 weeks), iron men and in 2010 I did a double ironman, so there's no issue with not being able to do it as a vegan (you just have to be stubborn and stupid, but that's a different matter ;))

So - I don't do anything special diet wise... I can always get the calories (judging by my hard to get rid of spare tyre around my waist). When I'm doing long long miles - I just make sure I graze a lot throughout the day. Like Konstantin says .... make sure you eat enough!

It's pretty much the same as anyone else will say for vegan training - lots of whole grains, pulses, legumes, fruits. I eat dried mango a lot while doing ultras, but I also eat sports gels (currently liking torq) and my diet is by no means perfect - I get back from a 25 miler and eat some crap.

You're not going to lack calories as a vegan, but you might need to plan your food a bit better so you don't get stuck somewhere and feel the need to relapse. I'm lazy, so I have some goto foods which I always have available (be that dried mango, or houmous, avocado & bloomer, or an easy raw pressed bar like these http://www.naturalbalancefoods.co.uk) so I never get too caught out.

Also have a look at what Scott Jurek can do http://www.scottjurek.com/blog/ .... plant-mutherfunking-strong!

Good luck with all the training and hope you can make the switch :)

edit : here's Sunday's food from a 20 mile run..

before
3 weetabix & almond milk
coffee

during
torq gel / some dried mango while running / high 5 sports drink

after
hazelnut milk smoothie with banana, raw kale, blueberries, quinoa flakes, seeds, hemp oil, walnuts, maybe a scoop of hemp protein powder

some grazing
Lentil salad, houmous & bread
some marmite rice cakes

dinner
brown pasta & fake mince with veg
anything else I want if the calories are still low

(I do rough count on calories on hard days to check I'm getting enough)
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Re: Vegan ultra runner?!

Postby TattooRunner » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:29 pm

WOw! Thank you all for your replies and welcomes!

I am from Bundaberg in Queensland. Beautiful spot!

I appreciate your responses and look forward to the challenges and excitement of continuing to transition and improve my diet.

Stay strong friends.

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Re: Vegan ultra runner?!

Postby NatB » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:54 am

Ah another Queenslander! I grew up in Brisvegas but was in Melbs for a while and was going to hook you up with some vegan fitness buff mates there. Don't know any vegans in Bundy sorry! There is a group in the UK called vegan runners. Think they have a FB page too. Worth tapping into them. Also have you heard of Ruth Heidrich?
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Re: Vegan ultra runner?!

Postby TattooRunner » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:21 am

Hay ya! Id still love to get connected with your Brizzy vegan mates if that's ok? The more people I can get connected to and learn from the better!

I will check out that Ruth bird too. Thanks!
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Re: Vegan ultra runner?!

Postby NatB » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:33 pm

Ah don't know any 'Vegas Vegans soz but tonnes of Melbourne ones. Can hook you up with those? Am sure there must be other brissie vegans on VF though!
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