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New member from California has ? re:figure competitions

Postby fitbabe47 » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:27 am

Hi everyone!
I'm new to the board.I have a question about figure and fitness competitions. Does anyone seem to know if you can have a vegan/raw vegan diet instead of the standard high protein diet? I'm pretty frustrated because I can't seem to find an answer to this question :( Anyway I want to compete in figure. If anyone can help, I would be happy to hear from you! :D Thanks, fitbabe47
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Re: Fitness and figure competitions

Postby JP » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:31 am

Welcome to the board FB!

fitbabe47 wrote:Does anyone seem to know if you can have a vegan/raw vegan diet instead of the standard high protein diet?


Sure! Why not!

Are you vegan already or considering going vegan?

The same basic dietary rules that meaties follow, will apply to you as well. I do not know of any vegan fitness/figure people (heard of numerous vegetarian ones though), but you would get help from people who do bodybuilding all the same, male or female the difference in the underlying principles are the same.

So, prepare to be a pioneer ;)
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Postby Mary » Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:52 pm

Hey, great to have you here.

Robert Hazley, who is a UK body builder, is leaning towards a raw diet and has been vegan for many years, and Pat Reeves is the UK powerlifting champion in her class - has been for the last 17 years I think. She is raw vegan. If you follow Pat's diet you can really get strong and healthy.

Let me find you a link for her website, then you can do your own research.
http://www.livingfoods.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

Also, check out http://www.veganbodybuilding.org/opening.htm which is full of good advice. As Joni says, the same principles should apply to your diet and routine as to any strength athlete - just different intensities and focuses. Let us know how it goes! Be nice to see you on the Work in Progress pages on the body building site some time, if you feel up to it. :-)
PM me as well, and I will send you details of my own diet, if you don't think I am being a bit presumptuous. :lol:
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Postby Mary » Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:58 pm

Got the following off the body building website.

"Here is what Pat had to say about diet: -

I don't personally believe people should add anything to their diets just because they want to do powerlifting, weights etc. Obviously, if you want to compete with the best you are always going to come way down the line (i.e. not in top three) unless you involve steroids, pharmaceutical drugs or at least major supplementation - I'm talking bodybuilding competitions here. Most people are not going to aspire to that. For the average guy or girl looking to increase lean muscular tissue, i.e. improve bodyshape, feel fitter, etc only the need to consume sufficient quality calories, depending on individual metabolism, is required. It's more about are people following a vegan lifestyle incorporating sufficient 'quality calories' ? - beans on toast is ostensibly vegan, but low in nutritional requirements and high in undesirable sodium. So, follow a high nutrient-dense philosophy in this respect. When talking strength i.e. powerlifting the same applies. However, ensuring sufficient balancing of amino acids in a form that takes almost no energy from the body (raw, sprouted) is perhaps the best of all. I've been raw, vegan for close on thirty five years now, so I cannot compare to how I 'was' as a meat-eater, but it sure didn't do my totals any harm! I eat in the way I do to survive cancer predominately, but will up the balance of bio-available amino acids when training gets heavy. Basically, I sprout everything - Living Foods - and turn them into every conceivable modality that takes my fancy, from 'bread' to 'cheese' and 'ice-cream'! Basically, I endeavour to take in 75% in vegetation, grains do not figure highly for me, the only ones I use are amaranth, quinoa, millet, groats in any quantity, with maybe rice and buckwheat once a week. Sprouted quinoa is phenomenal for providing amino-acids. The rest is sprouted pulses, seeds and nuts and, of course, fruit. Every day is different, I aim not to use the same food within a three day rotation. So a particular day could look like this:-

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Breakfast: - Sprouted groats, plus fruit, homemade soy/almond yoghurt, sometimes dehydrated into 'biscuits' and topped with fresh fruit and seeds

Midmorning: - Nut/seed milk, fruit

Lunch: - At least 8 types of sprouted greens, plus tofu (I make this,and yoghurt and this is basically my only cooked food), or sprouted pulses, plus a dressing,

Mid-afternoon: - Vegetable pate with crudities, a sprouted grain and fruit,

Evening meal: - Similar to lunch, perhaps a raw warmed-through soup, but I will use different vegetables, grains etc.

It is unusual for me not to include over thirty different foods each day, albeit in small quantities. When you're four-feet ten and compete at 44k you don't need much in terms of quantity! - but quality is a must!"
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Postby Mary » Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:20 pm

All right! All right! I will shut up soon. But before I do, check out the following links. The second one is a competition for women, vegan fitness modelling whatever. You still have time to enter, if you want to really motivate yourself. :D This site obviously expects women to get strong and healthy on a vegan diet.

http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/article/332
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Postby fitbabe47 » Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:49 pm

Thanks for the info!! I briefly scanned the websites mentioned, they seemed pretty interesting :wink: Will do more research later. Thanks again Mary and
JP!! :D :D Fitbabe47
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